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I agree, but how ridiculous is the overreach of police when we start suggesting that schools include it in curriculum

It’s sort of a foundational principle of the American system that power will always overreach, and adversarial checks and balances are always required to keep power in line. Saying it’s ridiculous to teach kids about their rights is, in that light, roughly comparable to saying it’s ridiculous that the government produces documents (i.e. the Bill of Rights) asserting what it can’t do. Far from being ridiculous it’s about as fundamentally American as it gets.

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bdowling 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It’s a joke because most American schools are run by the government.

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vundercind 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Schools have a lot of local autonomy and are among the easiest institutions to influence, for non-rich citizens. Getting your local schools to include more coverage of rights when encountering the police in the curriculum is among the easiest outcomes to pursue as far as changing what “the government” is doing.

… if enough other people in your local community agree with you.

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criddell 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And the government is selected by you and your neighbors.

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logicchains 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Only if you live in a swing county of a swing state.

	▲	brewdad 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Sorry but the citizens of Detroit don't select the school board in Alpena. Too many Americans focus on a Presidential election every four years that gets decided by a couple hundred thousand people in 4 or 5 states and ignore all of the elections that actually impact their day to day lives. Get involved in your local elections, even if only becoming an informed citizen. Those are the elections where you can make a difference.

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hackernewds 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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alchemist1e9 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What do you refer to? I send all my kids to private schools are there anti-private mandates in some places?

	▲	spankalee 11 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		They're probably referring to the very reasonable idea that funds for public schools shouldn't be diverted to private and religious schools under the "school choice" banner because it intentionally defunds public schools for private schools that have very little oversight and standards, and acts as an unneeded subsidy for wealthier families.
	▲	vundercind 11 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Some folks regard the stance that public school taxes are supposed to pay for having a public school system, not for redistribution to parents to spend on any schools they want, as being tyrannical.
	▲	rectang 11 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		It's whether or not the government subsidizes your private school via vouchers. The consequence is that public school budgets are further diminished, reducing and eventually eliminating the project to educate the whole citizenry, further stratifying society.

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walrus01 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In this case I think "private choice" is a dog whistle for "I want to take funds away from the local public school system by having voucher money from it, for my kids, to give to some ideologically oriented private school".

When you start complaining that everything you don't like is fascism/socialism, you're just cosplaying as being oppressed.

	▲	bdowling 9 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It's a shame, because school choice could be a rallying cry for "Tax the rich to pay for private schools for all kids."

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Nasrudith 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Forget schools, we already have to talk to kids about how to act around the police like they are some dangerous animal. Except if they were some dangerous animal we would have done the sensible thing and shot them all already.

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Eumenes 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Quit the hyperbole. This seems like a basic Civics class topic.

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walrus01 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Indeed, though I would also hope that it could be included in a more general and varied curriculum about the constitution and bill of rights, all other amendments, civil rights act, etc.