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| ▲ | virgildotcodes 17 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| People defending themselves from bigotry, and bigots themselves, are not equivalent. Black people not wanting racists to exist, and racists not wanting black people to exist, do you see a distinction? There has been such a consistent attempt at ramming square pegs into round holes online in trying to “both sides” a bunch of these issues. One trait is immutable and the other is not. One trait is entirely internally focused and is not defined by a rejection of anyone external to the subject, the other's trait is entirely defined by such an external focus on the rejection of another person's immutable identity. |
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| ▲ | ipaddr 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | You guess racist? I had a different first guess. Then I had a better second guess. I then had a three and fourth guess. Then I wasn't sure at all. None of them were racism. This becomes a personality test that speaks about who you are and what battles you always see. | | |
| ▲ | virgildotcodes 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | Substitute homosexuality, being transgender, or whatever you'd like. | | |
| ▲ | ipaddr 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | Try words you may not like too like right wing or Trump supporter. Still work? | | |
| ▲ | virgildotcodes 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | Being a right wing trump supporter is an immutable characteristic like being black or gay? | | |
| ▲ | ipaddr 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | I support the concept of gender fluidity. Yes not everyone is hardwired as gay or straight or bisexual. Being black.. is that referring to skin tone because people can slightly change their color and many products exist to lighten and darken skin tone. Or identifying from black culture in this case you can be white or black or something else and still identify. People can't change height either. Why you jumped to race tells us what your focus is. Why not Palestine / Jewish? It equally describes both depending on what your point of view is. | | |
| ▲ | virgildotcodes 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | This seems like word salad, are you sure you’re continuing to argue all this in good faith? You’re now saying that medical procedures can change your skin pigmentation, so race is no longer immutable? You genuinely hold this position? Is everything mutable then? Since with the right surgical and drug interventions you can theoretically change anything about a person’s mind or body, which trivially includes their height. Wow, truly this is deep. If there are short/tall people who are being targeted for harassment/oppression then yes they too are in the right to wish that heightists/heightism didn’t exist and their harassers are in the wrong. What are we even talking about here? | | |
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| ▲ | madeofpalk 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Let’s not pretend the disagreement is about fiscal policy. |
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| ▲ | ipaddr 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | Lets pretend we know what the disagreement is about. What's your guess? |
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| ▲ | kevincrane 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| lol I don’t want the bigots and people sending death threats to exist, I’ll stand on a soapbox and say that |
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| ▲ | ipaddr 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | Your guess is bigots. Care to provide more details. Racism or a broader bigot definition? | | |
| ▲ | kevincrane 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | I’ll be honest, I have better things to do with my time then help you narrow down your personal definition of bigot. Sorry. | | |
| ▲ | ipaddr 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | I haven't heard that word since the 70s. It's outdate like 'to the moon Alice'. What were you trying to convey with that word? |
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