And you say this to people you label not like you. You probably have more in common than you think. You both agree to label the other and you decided to fight a proxy battle from the agreed among identities. Do you want the other side not to exist as well? If yes let them know.

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virgildotcodes 7 months ago | parent | next [-]

People defending themselves from bigotry, and bigots themselves, are not equivalent. Black people not wanting racists to exist, and racists not wanting black people to exist, do you see a distinction?

There has been such a consistent attempt at ramming square pegs into round holes online in trying to “both sides” a bunch of these issues.

One trait is immutable and the other is not.

One trait is entirely internally focused and is not defined by a rejection of anyone external to the subject, the other's trait is entirely defined by such an external focus on the rejection of another person's immutable identity.

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ipaddr 7 months ago | parent [-]

You guess racist? I had a different first guess. Then I had a better second guess. I then had a three and fourth guess. Then I wasn't sure at all. None of them were racism. This becomes a personality test that speaks about who you are and what battles you always see.

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virgildotcodes 7 months ago | parent [-]

Substitute homosexuality, being transgender, or whatever you'd like.

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ipaddr 7 months ago | parent [-]

Try words you may not like too like right wing or Trump supporter. Still work?

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virgildotcodes 7 months ago | parent [-]

Being a right wing trump supporter is an immutable characteristic like being black or gay?

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ipaddr 7 months ago | parent [-]

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virgildotcodes 7 months ago | parent [-]

This seems like word salad, are you sure you’re continuing to argue all this in good faith?

You’re now saying that medical procedures can change your skin pigmentation, so race is no longer immutable? You genuinely hold this position?

Is everything mutable then? Since with the right surgical and drug interventions you can theoretically change anything about a person’s mind or body, which trivially includes their height.

Wow, truly this is deep.

If there are short/tall people who are being targeted for harassment/oppression then yes they too are in the right to wish that heightists/heightism didn’t exist and their harassers are in the wrong.

What are we even talking about here?

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ipaddr 7 months ago | parent [-]

Everything is mutable.

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virgildotcodes 7 months ago | parent [-]

It’s okay to just accept that your position was indefensible, you don’t have to pretend to believe in utterly asinine positions just to attempt to save face.

“I would totally be correct if we redefined what it means to be correct.” <- This is the honest end state of this type of behavior.

	▲	ipaddr 7 months ago \| parent [-]
		Glad to see you were thinking about this comment all day. It's okay to accept you were wrong and need to back out with a win. Your example like sexual preference being unchangeable were very outdated for 2024. Gender is fluid.

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madeofpalk 7 months ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Let’s not pretend the disagreement is about fiscal policy.

	▲	ipaddr 7 months ago \| parent [-]
		Lets pretend we know what the disagreement is about. What's your guess?

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kevincrane 7 months ago | parent | prev [-]

lol I don’t want the bigots and people sending death threats to exist, I’ll stand on a soapbox and say that

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ipaddr 7 months ago | parent [-]

Your guess is bigots. Care to provide more details. Racism or a broader bigot definition?

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kevincrane 7 months ago | parent [-]

I’ll be honest, I have better things to do with my time then help you narrow down your personal definition of bigot. Sorry.

	▲	ipaddr 7 months ago \| parent [-]
		I haven't heard that word since the 70s. It's outdate like 'to the moon Alice'. What were you trying to convey with that word?