| Adherence may be a concern for lots of types of carbs, but that doesn't change the conclusion that keto (i.e., very little to no carbs) is worse for muscle retention when keeping caloric content equal. Also, as others have pointed out, not all carbs lead to overeating necessarily. Likewise, not all keto diets are going to lead to decreased appetite. |
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| ▲ | s1artibartfast 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Carbs is also colloquialism for calorie dense grains and cereals. Broccoli is like 5% carbs by mass. Bread is 50% carbs by mass. It is a hell of a lot easier to overconsume the latter, spike your insulin, and get into a cycle of cravings. There is no boogie man trying to scare people away from broccoli. | | |
| ▲ | consteval 4 days ago | parent [-] | | > There is no boogie man trying to scare people away from broccoli I disagree, everyone I know who has been on a keto dietic consumes little to no fruits or fiber. Honestly, I'm not sure how they use the bathroom successfully with such little fiber ingestion. | | |
| ▲ | xenonite 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Well the answer to that is to eat more fat. | |
| ▲ | bityard 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I ate only keto for years and I'm getting back to it now so I have some experience to speak of. You are correct, fruit is mostly sugar so no fruits. Some keto adherents allow the occasional handful of berries, but I found that just made me unreasonably hungry later on. Not everyone has this reaction, though. There is plenty of fiber in above-ground vegetables. And even if there wasn't, it's not like eating only meat would kill you, humans evolved on the plains and/or jungles of Africa where meat was almost all that was easily available. | |
| ▲ | s1artibartfast 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | If you are talking very specifically about a ketogenic diet, then fruits actually do have too many carbs to maintain ketosis. In that case, it isn't some irrational fear, but reality. Re fiber, A significant portion of the population (maybe a majority) doesn't need much fiber to use the bathroom. It seems like this need is a common situation that people assume is a universal truth. Further, fiber can lead to constipation for many people. | |
| ▲ | cthalupa 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Fruits, yes, because it will kick you out of ketosis. Fiber, every keto adherent I knew would eat fiber in reasonably large quantities because keto often causes constipation, and a lot of the substitutes for things with "regular" carbs were high in fiber. |
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| ▲ | Wytwwww 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | > broccoli Have almost no carbs or any calories, they are basically just water. Like you'd need to eat 1kg just to get 300 calories (less than in e.g. 100g chickpeas). | | |
| ▲ | hombre_fatal 4 days ago | parent [-] | | They are 75% carbs. Don't miss the point in your focus on one thing that I said. Replace it with sweet potatoes, carrots, and any other health promoting vegetable that Americans don't eat (and when they do, without slathering in sugar/fat). | | |
| ▲ | Sohcahtoa82 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > They are 75% carbs. 75% of the calories in broccoli is from carbs, sure, but because the overall calorie content of broccoli is so low, it's still considered low carb. https://www.nutritionix.com/food/broccoli/1-cup A 1-cup, 156-gram serving is 55 calories, 11g carbs, and 5g fiber, so is only 6g of net carbs for keto purposes. | |
| ▲ | s1artibartfast 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | How are you getting 75%? I see 10g of garbs in 150g of broccoli. That is closer to 7%. |
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