Loving Gnome since like 15 years.

Switched for Unity for a few years when I was erring on Ubuntu side, where I like the minimalism style.

Gnome 3 was a shock but nothing any normal human being can easily overcome. The hardest was to live without a taskbar, but I'm free now.

Would never touch KDE-let-s-make-this-pixel-also-clickable, but that's the power of freedom: you can choose what you like.

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pjerem a day ago | parent | next [-]

You should try KDE just out of curiosity. It’s gone pretty far from what it was 15 years ago (which, iirc, was the sad KDE 4 era).

Nothing is forcing you, but you may be surprised.

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robotmay a day ago | parent | next [-]

I really want to like KDE. Every time I set it up on a system I have non-stop issues. Probably mostly tied to Wayland, but either way it's just not reliable enough for me to use. Even tried KDE Neon to see if being on the latest version would help, and that eventually killed its entire install by itself.

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lproven a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> It’s gone pretty far from what it was 15 years ago

GNOME 3.0 was released 15 years ago last April.

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/2011-Apr...

It is exactly the same desktop today. The most visible changes are that the strange floating word "Activities" is now a strange floating pill instead, whose meaning only becomes apparent once you switch virtual desktops a few times, and that the virtual desktop switcher has moved to become horizontal (i.e. worse and less space-efficient on a widescreen) when it was vertical.

I often hear "try it again, it's really changed" but I see no difference. I powerfully disliked it in 2011 and nothing has changed. It's a bit faster, but there are more hamburger menus now, to the extent that apps like Disks has two of them. It's still horrible.

I am all for UI innovation, but it needs to be informed by what's gone before.

I would like the GNOME development team to spend a while learning to use a few pre-Windows desktop environments efficiently and well, to learn how seriously different layouts can work.

Classic MacOS was sublime. 8.1 was a good snapshot.

RISC OS is a great example.

Original Psion System 3MX EPOC is another.

Psion NetBook EPOC32 is another, and very different.

Some Amiga-inspired environment such as AROS or MorphOS.

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tuna74 18 hours ago | parent [-]

There is no "GNOME development team", there are just people that are working together to make an DE (and other stuff). You can do the same if you want to.

	▲	hobo123 15 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I don't have numbers, but hasn't modern Gnome been like 90% funded by Redhat and other corps?

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asdfsa32 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

What do you use from Gnome?

Do you use NetworkManager or systemd-networkd or something else? What is your login manager? Do you use Gnome for email or anything else?

I am asking this in earnest because I don't believe Gnome has left anything useful beyond GTK as the library (if you consider that useful) and maybe nautilus. Everything else is just bolted on and weird and broken.