I'm not thrilled with what they've done to Windows lately myself, but this is just rude.

You know a lot of talented people who work there also post here, and it's not fair to insinuate that they aren't talented because some vastly complex system somewhere in the world had a bad day.

Stuff happens, things break. That's why lots of nines cost a lot of money. It doesn't automatically mean that anyone is incompetent.

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eddythompson80 a day ago | parent | next [-]

Individual talent is irrelevant when you have a company culture that rewards the opposite of that. Any talented person working at Microsoft knows that they are dealing with structural problem that force MS products to be massive piles of shit. There isn't much an talented individual can do about that.

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hyperhello a day ago | parent | next [-]

An organization can become fundamentally opposed to the purpose for which it was created. Organizations simply don't follow the same laws as the individuals inside it do. A company can be made of geniuses and be totally ineffective; it can be full of talented go-getters and be completely unable to fix problems.

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sznio 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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MonkeyClub 14 hours ago | parent [-]

Bit racist, don’t you think?

	▲	eddythompson80 13 hours ago \| parent [-]
		a bit?

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buttslut5099 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Satya sock account found

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mook 19 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I realize I'm responding to somebody who isn't paying much effort, but still…

Isn't that comment saying the direct opposite? If it's a cultural problem, its precisely Satya's fault for not fixing it; that's the executives' job.

	▲	eddythompson80 12 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I was confused too, but I said hey, it's probably typical buttslut5099

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gred a day ago | parent | prev [-]

ButtSlut5099, the finest detective since Sherlock Moans.

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ifwinterco a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Stuff happens and things break everywhere but right now at Microsoft they break badly and often, that points to actual issues.

Almost certainly not the fault of individual people, it's a management failure of course

	▲	NetMageSCW 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		When was the last major M365 outage?

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fyrabanks a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

i agree with everything you said here except the last part.

lots of nines means not having significant downtime. we passed 99.99% hours ago, and we're on the way to 99.9%

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codingdave a day ago | parent [-]

Lots of nines means they have SLAs of no significant downtime. It does not guarantee that the SLAs can never be missed, just that there will be consequences when it is missed. Lawyers and accountants and sales folks will sort out the compensation payments that come back to the customers and try to negotiate relationships back to a healthy state.

	▲	NLips 18 hours ago \| parent [-]
		That’s purely a choice by those claiming the nines. I’ve worked in companies selling software with more than 6 nines uptime (so that we can be more confident about the 5 nines). Not 4 nines uptime plus some money back for the other one.

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imglorp a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The enshitification of Windows was not technical incompetence; it was intentional product direction.

They transformed Windows from a useful OS to a banal surveillance and advertising platform.

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TheOtherHobbes a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Microsoft's superpower has always been hiring smart people and making them work under dumb management to create flimsy, mediocre outcomes.

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taysco a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm not actually sure this is true anymore. It seems most of their talent has left.

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zmgsabst a day ago | parent | prev [-]

There are lots of talented amateurs. What separates professionals is standards, quality, teamwork, etc.

I agree there are many talented people at Microsoft, but I don’t see the professionalism in this incident.