Remix.run Logo
▲ paxy 14 hours ago

No such thing as consensual when saying no to the boss could result in getting fired.

▲wasfgwp 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If you go that route you can extrapolate to some absurd degree. Basically any relationship with a power imbalance becomes sexual harassment.

▲twodave 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, you can extrapolate, and our society does. This is why ministers aren't supposed to have relationships with their clergy, therapists are not supposed to have relationships with their clients, lawyers, doctors, etc. The list goes on and on.

▲_ph_ 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Can become, yes. Depends a bit on what exactly the nature of the power imbalance is. Which is why there are usually strict rules about relationships with your reports and how to resolve the situation. Like reporting it to HR so the work positions can be shifted in a way to move positions so that there is no longer a reporting relationship between the two.

▲unethical_ban 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Exactly. At every place I've worked or consulted at, bosses dating subordinates is not permitted. I have seen multiple instances where people have to move teams/managers because they start a relationship.

These restrictions exist in most workplaces. Boss/subordinate relationships can result in extortion and bad behavior, regardless of which party starts it.

▲paxy 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Congrats you just figured out divorce laws and alimony from first principles.

▲throwaway6977 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Wow you are mere inches from understanding the concept of sexual harassment. Keep going!

▲wasfgwp 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You mean infantilising adults and denying their agency to feel better about yourself.

Obviously it depends from case to case and there are certain lines that shouldn’t be crossed but otherwise consenting adults should be free to make their own decisions.

▲vouwfietsman 9 hours ago | parent [-]

You do understand the issue of mixing consent with power imbalance?

▲Jtarii 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So is Huang only allowed to have sex with Lisa Su or something? But even then Nvidia dwarfs AMD in power.

▲wasfgwp 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There is always Elon I guess…

▲paxy 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

100% of his relationships have been with nvidia subordinates and business partners. You realize there are more women on the planet right?

▲wasfgwp 14 hours ago | parent [-]

> 100% of his relationships

*that we know of

▲moralestapia 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Got it, that's why I only date girls who meet the following criteria:

* My age, +/- 2 years.

* Comparable emotional and intellectual development.

* Same level of education.

* Earn within 10% of what I earn.

* Total net worth within 10% of mine.

* Muscular, so we're of comparable strength.

* Exact same cultural and ethnic background.

* No chronic diseases or disabilities, since I don't have any and that would be an unfair advantage.

* Read Hacker News just as pathologically frequently, so we both know when to short NVIDIA at approximately the same time.

▲Spivak 4 hours ago | parent [-]

In attempting to be intentionally obtuse you almost wrapped around to getting it again.

The strength differential is why the domestic violence procedure is what it is and the financial differential is why asset division and alimony during divorce exists. You made a joke and then basically described the foundation for an equitable marriage.

▲caminante 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How do you reconcile "love contracts" [0]?

[0] https://www.woodsrogers.com/insights/publications/this-valen...

▲nemomarx 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I've never worked at any company that used them or heard about them. Instead we take yearly training saying that even flirting with the idea is a cause for immediate termination.

Do you have stats on how common these are? Is it more popular in some non US country maybe?

▲caminante 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Your companies had zero tolerance for consensual relationships at the office? Not even married couples? Possible, but the exception because that really constrains your talent base.

Good idea about stats. Please share what you find.

▲komali2 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you suppose Jensen had a love contract with his subordinate, when the breaking of the news of their extramarital relationship led to a 20% drop in stock and the removal of Jensen as CEO?

▲caminante 13 hours ago | parent [-]

You're asking a leading question with flawed premises and assumptions.

1. The subordinate story broke yesterday. The stock dropped 12% (not 20) and recovered half.

2. But for the spy/export control subversion, do you think a CEO would be stepping down for banging a co-worker? LOL...

▲Janicc 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Considering he was fired it's the other way around. This at most only applies to very small companies or to people at the very bottom on the totem pole.

▲mohamedkoubaa 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How do you know the boss initiated?

▲kridsdale1 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah. It’s not like being an ultra chad billionaire with great biceps and confident personality is NOT attractive to women. Maybe her husband wasn’t doing it for her (legit feel bad for that man, whoever he is, today).

▲isquaredr 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I have only met the husband a few times but he is a great guy. Feel bad for him and their kids

▲asveikau 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Or when saying yes is good for your career, which is quoted to be the case upthread.

▲hbn 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Everyone loves to jump to this conclusion when I think that should require some heavy evidence.

You could just as easily say she did sexual favors to get a leg-up over more qualified peers and get/maintain her position.

If anything, the fact he got fired seems to imply she has all the power in their relationship being outed. I haven't seen anyone calling for her head.

▲stronglikedan 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> could result in getting fired

When did they discover the quid-pro-quo aspect of this particular relationship? The news is moving so fast that I must have missed that part.