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▲ coldpie 14 hours ago

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▲layer8 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That’s a strange argument. His wife owns half of these dollars, so no one should feel for her as well?

(I personally don’t care about Jensen. I just don’t think that “people don’t deserve sympathy because they are billionaires” makes any sense.)

▲coldpie 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Being a billionaire is a choice to continue to hoard resources that could be put to useful purposes instead. Yeah, I don't have much sympathy for people who choose to squander our society's resources like that.

▲ithkuil 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Does a billionaire who became billionair by marrying a person who became a billionaire also bears the responsibility of hoarding because they choose to marry that person and not divorce early?

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▲zzrrt 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No, not morally. If she divorces, she should also be subject to that proposed the wealth tax, which she won't mind because according to your frame she didn't choose to hoard.

▲KetoManx64 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

He's not hoarding crap. Man's probably got maybe a couple hundred thousand dollars in free cash, the rest is all loans, stocks, investments and properties.

The only people that should be wealth taxed is leeches like you that see how utterly corrupt the state is with how it handles tax dollars and wants to give it more money.

▲coldpie 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Nah. He could sell most of that stock and it could be put to useful purposes while making no difference whatsoever to his life. It could be used to build housing, or pay teachers more, or build libraries, or found new companies, or pay off medical debt, there's thousands of things it could be used for. Instead he's just sitting on it. This is hoarding.

▲lrae 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wrong tree?

> Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang Backs California Billionaire Tax Despite Potential $8B Bill

> "I don't mind paying taxes. The more you make, the more taxes you pay. I'm okay with that," Huang said

▲lavendermon 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Jensen has been one of the few outspoken billionaires for promoting higher taxes on himself. In fact, only he and Buffett come to mind as the members of that category.

Then again, below is a 2024 article from the NY Times claiming Jensen was taking advantage of loopholes to save $8 billion on taxes. Actions speak louder than words so perhaps his more recent messaging about being in favor of higher taxes on himself was the result of a PR effort, given his rapidly increasing visibility.

However, I imagine that any good accountant would strongly recommend saving $8 billion on taxes like Jensen did before 2024. The article:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/05/business/nvidia-jensen-hu...

▲sowbug 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's not necessarily inconsistent. You can support improvements to the tax code while also optimizing for the current version.

▲shimman 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Saying you support then actually making it possible, something that every billionaire can easily do with how super PACs work is an actual choice.

Talking is the cheapest thing you can do and his actions say more. Rather than helping make a free and safer society for Americans, he chose to ignore export bans and work with an adversarial government.

▲verdverm 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Things Jensen has said are now all suspect. Does he really believe this or is it just his day time positioning, in contrast to his nighttime positioning that cost him his job

▲marcusverus 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Owning part of the company he built isn't hoarding, kiddo.

▲coldpie 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Tens of thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands of people built that company, kiddo.

▲marcusverus 12 hours ago | parent [-]

They did the jobs they were given and were well compensated for it. This fact has no bearing on whatsoever on the claim that Jensen is "hoarding" his shares in the company that he created.

▲coldpie 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

He could give away >95% of his wealth and it would make no difference at all to his life. He would still have the exact same life he has now. That wealth could be put to useful purposes, but isn't, because he is sitting on it. That is hoarding.

▲jaharios 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You could also fall in a well and would probably make no difference to the world.

▲marcusverus 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You could drive a 20 year old car, live in a small apartment, wear Walmart clothes, and rely on Social Security for retirement while donating everything else to charity, and the difference on your life would be negligible. You'd likely go from a 99.9th percentile lifestyle (globally) to a 95th percentile lifestyle. Why are you hoarding your wealth when people are hungry and dying of preventable diseases around the world? Of course, you'll insist that "it's different" (you can't possibly be expected to take a 5 percentile hit to your lifestyle!) but that's just an excuse to exempt yourself from your own moral code. Why would anyone take progressives' supposedly "moral" beliefs seriously--or even to view them as being sincerely held--when even affluent progressives consider themselves to be immune from their own moral calculus? Is there a single religion on earth that is so blatantly hypocritical as to make demands of others without requiring them of the faithful?

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▲coldpie 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> You could drive a 20 year old car, live in a small apartment, wear Walmart clothes, and rely on Social Security for retirement while donating everything else to charity, and the difference on your life would be negligible.

No, this is obviously false.

If you're bringing up buying clothes at Walmart, then I don't think you understand how much money a billion dollars is. A billion dollars in a HYSA giving 3.5% yields 35 million dollars a year, with zero work and zero risk. It takes a married couple ballpark 5 million dollars to basically never need to work again. So a billion dollars earning guaranteed interest gives you enough money to never need to work again, seven times over, every single year. After just one year, you already have more money just in interest than you could ever reasonably spend, and you haven't even tapped in to your principle. A billion dollars is an absolutely insane amount of wealth.

Jensen Huang has eighty times that much money. There is no difference between eighty billion dollars and one billion dollars. It's the same amount of money. It's effectively infinite. He can give away 79 of those 80 billions and he would not notice, it would have zero impact on his life. He wouldn't have to drive a Walmart car or live in a small apartment, he can still have every lifestyle choice he could possibly want after giving away 95% of his money. The difference would not even be negligible to him. There would literally be no difference.

▲vouwfietsman 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> well compensated for it

If they were, how could he hoard so much of their output?

▲NetMageSCW 7 hours ago | parent [-]

He didn’t, that’s just a reflection of how much nVidia has made.