So here’s a gross generalisation: people don’t know what they want, and when they do know they can’t explain it.

I think folks who live in spec-driven worlds just don’t appreciate how poorly understood the capabilities and processes of computing and networks are, to the point where even if you gave people hallucination free LLMs you’d probably find people just frustrating themselves because they can’t figure out what they want, what it should do, and how it should be used.

Quite apart from the huge chunk of the app ecosystem that relies on common protocols, centralised services and so on.

▲ KellyCriterion 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> rustrating themselves because they can’t figure out what they want

I have seen this with yet "AI-unexperienced" users - for simple questions or textreformating, they are absolutely fine with the Chatbots. But thats all they can get out of it: Above that level their experience is very often frustrating due to too less understanding while having high expectancy towards the model in reverse (like "its AI so it should know...")

And this people end up then not using any of the AI tools beyond that because they do not "believe" / trust that this thingy can get work done.

▲ aurareturn 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

  people don’t know what they want, and when they do know they can’t explain it.

* Book me an uber or Waymo in 15 minutes. Which ever is cheapest.

* Based on our music discussions, make a playlist for me in Spotify. No songs older than 15 years.

* Look through my email, find all my receipts, show me a graph of my spend and categorize them.

* My business needs warehouse space. Find warehouse services within 15 miles of San Francisco. Ask them for their pricing and capacity. Here are pics of my items. Send these pics to them for quote.

* Find a hotel for me in Los Angeles on October 1st to Oct 5th. 4 starts. Max $200/night. Gym is a must. Don't care about pool. Close to airport. I have Platinum membership with Accor so try to find Accor hotels but not a must.

People do know what they want.

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andsoitis 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> * Based on our music discussions, make a playlist for me in Spotify. No songs older than 15 years.

It is easy to express yes, but is this how people think about what they want to listen to?

Someone can already do this in a chat bot, see the list of things and then find it on Spotify or whatever their favorite music service is.

What the chat bot won't know is what they have listened to, which is probably a much higher predictor of what you'd like than the discussions you've had about music. You've probably had those discussions because you are already listening to that music!

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Vegenoid 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You just explained what you want far more clearly than most people do.

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Planktonne 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Only the fourth of those is not more easily accomplished using existing tools; the things you're describing as explainable are such because they've already been achieved.

	▲	aurareturn 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Once the AI does something, I want to follow up. It's just the start.

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cj 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

All of your examples seem to require using another company's app.

I thought the parent's point is that the App Store will loose dominance (because you won't need apps).

	▲	aurareturn 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		That's right. I think AI agents will access services without you going through apps.

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spider-mario 20 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> No songs older than 15 years.

That’s a surprising requirement. Is it a proxy for “less likely that I’ve already heard it”? For “the band probably still tours”? For “I can discuss it with friends without sounding like I’ve been living in a cave”?