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| ▲ | burnaftercommen an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | These conversations are happening, you're just not tuning in. The conversations involve examining how the resources in society are allocated, and who gets to make those decisions. Both of these have great influence over our societies, and so much of toxic masculinity lies downstream from them. | | |
| ▲ | xg15 36 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Yes, those are the usual conversations in left-wing circles, and they're important conversations to have! They can also have good results, i.e. in the current protests in France and other countries, or the Midterm elections in the US. I just don't see how this has anything to do with masculinity in particular. There exists toxic masculinity in liberal left and in anticapitalist circles as well. | | |
| ▲ | burnaftercommen 22 minutes ago | parent [-] | | >I just don't see how this has anything to do with masculinity in particular. Masculinity is a social concept, which makes it inextricably linked to how societies are governed and how resources are allocated within them. There are other aspects to masculinity that are not neatly confined to such terms, but a lot of the toxicity stems from the social aspects--primarily how we perceive, and talk about, men. |
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| ▲ | neglesaks 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The premise is already offered by the preceding post: Blame the man/men up front for the ailment, as a select few overtly seem to volunteer in this whole comments section. | | |
| ▲ | xg15 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | I'm amazed how much of the discussion in this thread is purely meta without even so much as saying what specific issues we are talking about. | | |
| ▲ | burnaftercommen an hour ago | parent [-] | | Toxic masculinity and capitalism would be the main issues. | | |
| ▲ | neglesaks 39 minutes ago | parent [-] | | A case in point of simplistic bs one-liners being served up as if they meant something, in topics of complex issues. Besides, I've already refuted the notion of 'capitalism is a source of mens woes', at least from the observable data. | | |
| ▲ | burnaftercommen 14 minutes ago | parent [-] | | >A case in point of simplistic bs one-liners being served up as if they meant something, in topics of complex issues. It's not simplistic at all. If you poll every man on earth for their biggest issues, I guaran-fuckin-tee the majority of them will mention money. Are you going to tell a doctor they're being simplistic for telling the smoker that the majority of their health issues are related to their smoking habit? |
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