These conversations are happening, you're just not tuning in.

The conversations involve examining how the resources in society are allocated, and who gets to make those decisions. Both of these have great influence over our societies, and so much of toxic masculinity lies downstream from them.

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xg15 an hour ago | parent [-]

Yes, those are the usual conversations in left-wing circles, and they're important conversations to have! They can also have good results, i.e. in the current protests in France and other countries, or the Midterm elections in the US.

I just don't see how this has anything to do with masculinity in particular.

There exists toxic masculinity in liberal left and in anticapitalist circles as well.

	▲	burnaftercommen an hour ago \| parent [-]
		>I just don't see how this has anything to do with masculinity in particular. Masculinity is a social concept, which makes it inextricably linked to how societies are governed and how resources are allocated within them. There are other aspects to masculinity that are not neatly confined to such terms, but a lot of the toxicity stems from the social aspects--primarily how we perceive, and talk about, men.