| ▲ | coldtea 13 hours ago | |||||||
>Making a sandbox both fully secure and fully useful are contradictory requirements. Any tradeoff deals with "contradictory statements". Doesn't mean we should always side with one side on a tradeoff. Nobody said anything about "fully secure" and some arbitrarily "fully useful" combined, anyway. For certain people it could be 100% fully useful with just access to a few fixed folders and a few fixed APIs. Many of us don't want it to drive our lives, just do some specific this or that. | ||||||||
| ▲ | Kim_Bruning 11 hours ago | parent [-] | |||||||
Right! That was the standard view until fairly recently. But I'm pointing out something else. This year we've learned that If a SOTA LLM decides that the sandbox is standing between it and its current objective: well, it has the ability, the time, and literally nothing better to do all day. Odds are, if you've configured the sandbox for anything useful, you've also provided a crack it can use to get out. Again, doesn't make a sandbox entirely useless. Does mean you can't just put it in a really tight box and call the job done. If anything, the strict sandbox might even hurt, because it's more likely to get in the way. (By analogy: consider the safety issues posed by a dam without a spillway.) | ||||||||
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