This is interesting, I've been using claude for work stuff because they pay the $200 subscripion but at home I've been using pi with glm-5.3-flash and now deepseekv4.1-flash.

When I'm doing work stuff I'm really not liking claude and only using it because anthropic doesn't allow other harnesses. If work would give me a $20 ollama cloud subscription in place of the $200 claude one I would be much more happy at work, that's how much I dislike it.

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brabel a day ago | parent | next [-]

I use Requesty to get access to models from all providers, including Anthropic. It is pretty cheap and competitive with others for the quality. haiku 5.5 is one of the cheapest available, cheaper than Qwen while being superior in the price range (less than 10 cents per million tokens). I put 10 dollars to use on my hobby projects and I still have more than half after a couple of weeks. Using bigger models is dramatically more expensive, of course.

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bonsai_spool a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> it because anthropic doesn't allow other harnesses.

You're not able to use the API credit and hook it up to another harness?

https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/about-claude/api-credits...

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danuker a day ago | parent | next [-]

You can PAYG. But it costs an arm and a leg, compared to the subscriptions. Why? Because they're propping up the "moat" that is Claude Code.

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reverius42 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

API credits yes, subscription no. And the subscription is much better value (per token).

	▲	bonsai_spool a day ago \| parent [-]
		> API credits yes, subscription no. And the subscription is much better value (per token). The subscription now comes with API credits. That's what I linked to.

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StilesCrisis a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Pi definitely has extensions which allow it. I googled "use Pi with Claude Pro" or something and Gemini was more than happy to point me at the extension.

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goosejuice a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> because anthropic doesn't allow other harnesses

I don't think this is true. They never went through with this change. If you use the SDK it appears ToS compliant. You just can't sell it or distribute it, hence why pi doesn't support it.

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someothherguyy a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> anthropic doesn't allow other harnesses

they do though?

edit: i guess the parent comment meant subscriptions specifically.

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eptcyka a day ago | parent | next [-]

Can I use my max subscription with Pi without Anthropic banning my account?

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kamikazechaser 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Very high risk of a ban even though Anthropic is turning a blind eye to it right now.

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womble2 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I used a claude subscription with omp for 6 months earlier this year, before switching to chatGPT which Im also using with it. Claude even has a splash screen on their login page saying logged in with oh-my-pi so I very much doubt they are trying to ban people for using other harnesses.

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eptcyka a day ago | parent [-]

They definitely did ban people who used their auth token with other harnesses for a bit. Hence my hesitance.

	▲	eptcyka 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		In fact, if you ask Claude now, it will tell you not to try and log in to other harnesses as it violates the terms of service. One can only use API billing with other harnesses, not the Max subscription. Which of course is a load of toss.

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indrex a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Can you expand on this? Is there a way to use Claude subscription but not their harness?

	▲	dobbel31 a day ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I don't use this myself but I believe they enabled Claude Code recently with explicit permission from Anthropic: https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode/pull/58782#issuecommen...
	▲	conception a day ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		No but you can use bb or t3codes etc with it. Not perfect but allows orchestration between harnesses.

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cja a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So you could make yourself much happier at work by paying the $20 yourself

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tamimio a day ago | parent | prev [-]

You can use any harness with claude sub through llm reverse proxy