| ▲ | Jackobrien a day ago |
| The best open models today have been “good enough” to do most knowledge work for a few months. This might be the first US one good enough too. That’s a big deal. Open weight US based Opus 5.5 within 12 months. |
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| ▲ | kadoban a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| > Open weight US based Opus 5.5 within 12 months. Seems unlikely. Maybe open weight at all near there? That'd be great. |
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| ▲ | wolttam a day ago | parent | next [-] | | People say this about the frontier every time, and the open models catch up in a matter of months every time. | | |
| ▲ | kadoban a day ago | parent [-] | | The open models catch up, the _US_ open models catch up much more slowly. Different incentives and cultures. |
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| ▲ | p-e-w a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Why does that seem unlikely? The difference between frontier and open weights has been much less than 12 months for a while now. | | |
| ▲ | satvikpendem a day ago | parent | next [-] | | US open weights are much worse, way more than 12 months apart compared to frontier. | |
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| ▲ | kadoban a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Why does that seem unlikely? The difference between frontier and open weights has been much less than 12 months for a while now. Frontier and open weights? Yes. Frontier and _US_ open weights? No. I'd expect a US open weights provider to suddenly get bought or go non-open if they get near Opus 5.5 anyway. |
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| ▲ | nghiemphucminh7 a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] |
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| ▲ | npc99 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Inception Mercury 3 and Particle-1's model are also good. (I am assuming Inception is an American company, not sure TBH) |
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| ▲ | ray__ a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Agree, Mercury 3 is one of my favorite models right now...the speed is such a quality of life improvement. | |
| ▲ | Bluestein 20 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | May I add Poolside (Laguna S) to this? Used them extensively during their free trial (sadly now apparently over).- | |
| ▲ | johnshahbazian a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | For my own purposes, I found Mercury Decide to be excellent. Better than Jev at what I threw at it. Inception did a really great job with it. | | |
| ▲ | flipbrad a day ago | parent [-] | | Thanks for your review, 15 day old HN account that likes praising Mercury services. | | |
| ▲ | johnshahbazian 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I'm not affiliated with them at all. yeah I like them, and yeah I like to compare decision models at the moment. Don't believe me? Google my name. | |
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| ▲ | martincsweiss a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Really? I'm surprised. What do you use it for? My read on Diffusion LLMs has been that it's cool tech, but only useful for things like like code autocomplete or editing a block of text. They don't beat autoregressive models on quality per compute, assuming you are serving lots of users and can batch requests. | | |
| ▲ | npc99 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I just use it for normal coding stuff. It's not as good as the current frontier, to be fair. I don't use it to help me think through architecture, for example. But I have found to work well for at least like half of coding tasks once architecture and patterns are in place. Its advantage is that it's very very fast. | |
| ▲ | serf a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | MoA schemes that use proposers/task-separation/supervisory roles can still benefit from very fast diffusion models like mercury, the overall speed doesn't have to be bottle-necked by the slowest model -- that depends on the arrangement it's deployed in. but to your point , yeah diffusion models can be kind of brain dead without proper coaxing. my ideal arrangement is a smarter/bigger model supervising lots of proposals from diffusion models. The diffusion models spit out a big proposal each, the bigger model can vet something as minor as the headline or filename for each proposal, time still ends up being saved. |
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| ▲ | freakynit a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Sorry to put it bluntly, but, Mercury is sh*t in comparison. And I have genuinely tried a few times to use it since the speed is so good. But nop.. it just isn't there. |
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| ▲ | josh-wrale a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Muse Glimmer is pretty good. |
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| ▲ | agentdev001 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I give it 2. |
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| ▲ | walrus01 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Things have been remarkably "not terrible" since approximately the release of Laguna S 2.1 a while back in early summer 2026, which is now outdated within the past 6 month time frame by other, better non CN open weight models. I'm not saying that any of them are to the level as a deepseek v4.1 flash 1017 or similar but they're catching up. The most recent huge mistral release is also grounds for an optimistic view. |
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| ▲ | gigatexal a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| That’d be the inflection point I’m waiting for! |