| ▲ | utopiah 3 hours ago |
| Well "starting MSRP of $1,599." I'll stick to my 2nd hand Pixel 8 that I bought, for GrapheneOS long term support, for 1/10th of that price. No doubt it's a way WAY better device, really, but I don't see where I would actually need that. I happily toss the one I have around and don't even care if it gets stolen or lost one day, different preference. |
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| ▲ | silisili an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| If it makes anyone feel any better, Moto in particular never stays at MSRP long. I'd expect it to be well under $1000 within a month or two, which is a sweeter spot. That said, I've never seen a regular Moto phone nearly this expensive, so who knows. |
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| ▲ | judge2020 an hour ago | parent [-] | | RAMpocalypse is real and high end phones are definitely going to feel it the most. I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola had to pay an insane amount of money to get any ram allocation at all. | | |
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| ▲ | glenstein 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| As some who also just so happens to have a Pixel 8 (well 8a) 2nd hand phone with Graphene I think an underappreciated point here is access to older hardware with current software. Whether intended or not, a second life for hardware is another way GrapheneOS insulates from control of first party vendors. |
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| ▲ | grapheneos an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Pixel 8 and later have 7 years of support from launch and so does the Motorola Signature 27. It isn't GrapheneOS extending the life of the devices but rather GrapheneOS only using devices with long term security updates. We do greatly improve the security updates during the lifetime of the device but it stops being safe to use devices without firmware updates after end-of-life. Official GrapheneOS releases are for devices which aren't end-of-life. We provide extended support releases for devices past end-of-life as harm reduction, but we don't do it indefinitely. We've found providing extended support releases can be quite counterproductive since people won't listen to us and will continue using or even buying the devices despite growing insecurity. It's going to be a lot worse now with AI models able to help anyone develop exploits. | |
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| ▲ | freedomben an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Indeed, I was planning to buy this but the price is way too high. My biggest fear here is that the price causes the device sales to be poor, and people blame grapheneos for it |
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| ▲ | grapheneos an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | They have their own OS with Google Mobile Services. They've made sure the device will meet all of our requirements and are helping us develop and maintain support for it. It's not the main OS for it. | |
| ▲ | selectodude an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I don’t think anybody will blame GrapheneOS, it’s not even installed by default. Motorola will absolutely see that GrapheneOS support is not a value add and will decide against spending whatever nominal value it cost them to have first class support for it though. | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > biggest fear here is that the price causes the device sales to be poor, and people blame grapheneos for it I'm unconvinced there is a market for a premium GrapheneOS phone. It seems to do well in a niche where phones built for another OS get repurposed to it on the cheap. | | |
| ▲ | solyin an hour ago | parent [-] | | Same. A lot of voices saying "I would totally buy..." and then an excuse comes up when it's time to actually buy. (no shade, I've been guilty of this myself) | | |
| ▲ | bpavuk 31 minutes ago | parent [-] | | my sole excuse is price. I'd happily cough up anything below $1100 for this particular phone. anything above that is simply exorbitant. RAM went 5x over 2026, so I'm practically forced to not consider any hardware purchase at all, not even used, for now |
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| ▲ | 150g2 12 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] |
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