Indeed, I was planning to buy this but the price is way too high. My biggest fear here is that the price causes the device sales to be poor, and people blame grapheneos for it

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grapheneos 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They have their own OS with Google Mobile Services. They've made sure the device will meet all of our requirements and are helping us develop and maintain support for it. It's not the main OS for it.

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Brybry an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's expensive but also a similar price to other flagship phone models.

Pixel 11 Pro Fold is MSRP $1900+

Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 8 MSRP is $1900+ ($2100 for 512GB storage)

Samsung Galaxy S26 Ultra 512GB MSRP $1600 (and this was before a lot of hardware price increases, I imagine the Galaxy S27 will be more expensive)

iPhone 18 Pro Max 512GB $1500 on Apple Store

As memory and storage chips get more expensive, phones will continue to get more expensive. Even Qualcomm SoCs have seen significant price hikes. [1]

[1] https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/qualcomm-t...

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Hello71 38 minutes ago | parent [-]

> Pixel 11 Pro Fold > Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 8

is motorola's phone folding?

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Brybry 18 minutes ago | parent [-]

No, it's not folding.

There's not a lot of flagship phones that released recently which is why I included them alongside phones that do not fold but were released a bit earlier.

I think the most fair comparison will probably be the Galaxy S27 when it releases in early 2027.

	▲	Kirby64 2 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Folding commands an immense premium. Not really fair to compare folding phones, given the premium associated with those. 512GB storage phones sure… although the fact they don’t even offer a 256GB option seems odd to me. Clearly gaining margin back by only selling 512 and marking it up based on that.

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selectodude 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don’t think anybody will blame GrapheneOS, it’s not even installed by default. Motorola will absolutely see that GrapheneOS support is not a value add and will decide against spending whatever nominal value it cost them to have first class support for it though.

	▲	HybridStatAnim8 10 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		The partnership between Motorola and GrapheneOS is a long term one. The effort that is put into providing the needed hardware security requirements also benefits Motorola directly, as they can use that hardware themselves. What you are predicting will happen is not corroborated by evidence.

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JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> biggest fear here is that the price causes the device sales to be poor, and people blame grapheneos for it

I'm unconvinced there is a market for a premium GrapheneOS phone. It seems to do well in a niche where phones built for another OS get repurposed to it on the cheap.

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kybernetikos 42 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I'm part of the market for a premium phone that at least nods in the direction of allowing you freedom over your own device. I'm probably going to buy something from this batch of Motorola phones rather than a samsung which has got more and more user hostile over the years. And yes I might be part of a small niche, but I'm so pleased someone is finally making a premium phone that appeals to me.

	▲	JumpCrisscross 35 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> I'm so pleased someone is finally making a premium phone that appeals to me I’m glad to hear this. And I hope it succeeds. The top comments all complaining about price may just be reinforcing my biases.

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HybridStatAnim8 15 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is a market for a phone running GrapheneOS (that arent pixels) in general, and a wider range of devices can be supported in the future, once the needed hardware security features are implemented in them.

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solyin 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Same. A lot of voices saying "I would totally buy..." and then an excuse comes up when it's time to actually buy. (no shade, I've been guilty of this myself)

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bpavuk 2 hours ago | parent [-]

my sole excuse is price. I'd happily cough up anything below $1100 for this particular phone. anything above that is simply exorbitant. RAM went 5x over 2026, so I'm practically forced to not consider any hardware purchase at all, not even used, for now

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drnick1 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

It will probably go on sale soon close to your price point, as non-Apple phones typically do.

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JumpCrisscross an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> my sole excuse is price

To be clear, I’m not criticizing anyone balking at a $1,600 phone. I’m expressing skepticism at marketing a GrapheneOS phone at that price point.

	▲	HybridStatAnim8 13 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Its not being marketed as a GrapheneOS phone. It is a Motorola phone that will come with MotorolaOS. It additionally meets the hardware security requirements for GrapheneOS, and can be flashed with it. There is a possibility preinstalled options will be available but nothing has been confirmed.

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microtonal an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'll wait a few months for prices to go down a little, but I'm excited to get one.

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sneak 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I fail to see the logic in it being worth $1099 but not $2k.

If your max price point were $600 or something, sure, but once you’re above $1k what’s the difference? You already value it greatly.