| ▲ | himata4113 a day ago |
| The bad thing here is that modding discord will become significantly harder and might have been their original intention here. |
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| ▲ | slashink a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| Hey, I work at Discord, specifically on this effort. Our entire focus here has been about improving performance and making the client really feel great. |
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| ▲ | Scaled a day ago | parent | next [-] | | It's difficult to believe Discord's intent is to make the client great when the recent updates have been to shove Best Buy ads into it. Even to the point of surfacing ads as friend dm notifications! In fairness, I'm jaded since I lost my account due to a sudden ultimatum to share my phone number -- extortion for my PII. So it is impossible for me to believe Discord operates in good faith. | | |
| ▲ | Insanity a day ago | parent | next [-] | | In fairness these are probably distinct teams at discord. A team of engineers focused on performance probably _genuinely_ cares about that. But there’s other teams and forces at play as well. So I agree with your overall sentiment but the SDEs who worked on this are perhaps not the ones shovelling adware into our faces. | | |
| ▲ | Scaled a day ago | parent [-] | | This is a fair point, but it's basically being proud of making the monstrous privacy-destroying ad machine go 10% faster. With how they pressure people to doxx themselves to them (phone number verification) or be completely locked out of their accounts, there is enough predatory tactics in that company that no one should feel proud of working there. | | |
| ▲ | Insanity a day ago | parent | next [-] | | I don't work at Discord, but I know of very few companies that don't have "malicious" tactics in one sense or another. Ultimately they are trying to improve their own bottom line and that _rarely_ aligns with what's best for people. | |
| ▲ | slashink a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yeah look Discord is more than one person. A lot of us really care about making the most performant client and that's why we did this. |
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| ▲ | positron26 a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | unrented7977 a day ago | parent | next [-] | | You're saying this to a random person who doesn't like the software you use. How absolutely puerile. Please either grow up or stop commenting. | |
| ▲ | Scaled a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Thanks, but I already left hell (Discord) for heaven (open, self-hostable platforms). |
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| ▲ | himata4113 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Please drop a stripped .pdb right next to the binary or at least make it downloadable :)! | |
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| ▲ | 4yeyeyeyey a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] |
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| ▲ | cfbradford a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They’re showing how easy it is to vibe code a port of the app. A motivated developer outside Discord could do the same and release OpenDiscord or whatever if they cared enough to want to mod the app that way. |
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| ▲ | hmry a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Discord says using modified or alternative clients is against their terms of service, and they have banned people for it in the past (if they do something detectable, like enabling A/B testing feature flags that their account ID doesn't match :/) They're not exactly friendly to that sort of thing, I wouldn't be surprised if they add some traps to catch people making their own client. So I'd +1 the sibling comment's suggestion to consider alternatives to Discord, if you're setting up your own community | | |
| ▲ | writtenone a day ago | parent [-] | | So then hide your client better? Just because a company has a policy does not mean you need to follow it. | | |
| ▲ | 10111001 a day ago | parent [-] | | > So then hide your client better? Just because a company has a policy does not mean you need to follow it. How, it sounds like they're trying to catch you, e.g. I took... > and they have banned people for it in the past (if they do something detectable, like enabling A/B testing feature flags that their account ID doesn't match :/) ...to mean they push out changes just to detect the clients who don't conform. I'm sure they could be very sneaky about it in a way that would be hard to "just do better" For instance: have some client behavior change that's hidden behind a feature flag or even calendar date, wait a long time until all official clients are updated, then trigger it and ban the laggards who can be assumed to be using an unofficial client. |
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| ▲ | sellmesoap a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Since discord announced that they would be scanning ID a lot of alternatives have sprung up, chatto and Armada are both looking promising as alternatives, plus the chatto vibed marketing materials on their Dev chat gave me a laugh the other week! | | |
| ▲ | Scaled a day ago | parent [-] | | I can recommend both Matrix and Discourse forum as excellent open source selfhostable alternatives. | | |
| ▲ | sellmesoap a day ago | parent [-] | | I like matrix, its like the new IRC for almost real time developer chat, I also do this via Discord but I'd prefer an open alternative. If you have experience running a matrix server do you find the data storage an issue? It sounded like if you federate and join the bigger channels you can balloon your storage pretty fast. |
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| ▲ | uproarchat a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Ahem there is also the option to check out competitors ;) | |
| ▲ | nekusar a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Take a look at Chatto. https://chatto.run/ FLOSS, easy to self host, and works nicely. | |
| ▲ | apetresc a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There are literally dozens of open-source Discord clients already, both vibe-coded and not; and have been for many years. Nobody needed to prove this was possible, least of all Discord. | |
| ▲ | toomuchtodo a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is the way, LLMs are an enabler and force multiplier to help you build whatever interface you want on whatever protocol you have to reverse engineer. Provide it the official client and point it at public api endpoints (or an LLM operated mitm proxy), set it to work to reimplement. |
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| ▲ | ChocolateGod a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I don't see any reason to think the web client is going away. |
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| ▲ | rbits a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They can just repackage the web app and mod that if all else fails. |
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| ▲ | muddi900 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Some vibekiddie will reengineer this, and mod it. |
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| ▲ | rs999gti a day ago | parent | next [-] | | How? Anthropic hard coded anti-reverse engineering instructions into Claude. https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell... | | |
| ▲ | pjmlp a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Local AI for starters, stop relying on a single timesharing AI vendor. | |
| ▲ | techjamie a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Hopefully they don't stop it from doing malware analysis. I've been using it to report malware C2s and it's a godsend for pulling apart the layers of crap they use. Edit: A couple queries with it indicate it will still assist with malware analysis and considers it beneficial. Hopefully it stays that way. | |
| ▲ | esseph a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Open models have no guardrails. | | |
| ▲ | TheGoddessInari a day ago | parent [-] | | This isn't universally true, and there's a lot of pressure to bake guardrails and moderation in: Mistral for instance went from one of the most unhinged to incredibly restrictive models with Mistral 4 Large release. Several others have done similar to greater or lesser degrees in calendar 2026, but the pressure is there across the board to limit what the open models can do without modifications that could largely only be found locally and not from online providers. |
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| ▲ | inknight a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | DeepSeek + DSH can do it with a fraction of the cost | | |
| ▲ | swat535 a day ago | parent [-] | | As well as literally any other Chinese / open model. I'm not surprised Anthropic and OpenAI are trying their best to ban / severely handicap competition and crack down on opensource. It's a major threat to their existence. |
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| ▲ | breakwaterlabs a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It may shock you to hear that there are other coding agents than Claude. | | |
| ▲ | abirch a day ago | parent [-] | | Wait until they find out about Abliteration models |
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| ▲ | pyreko a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | ...so just don't use Claude? | | | |
| ▲ | not_a9 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Can’t see it on my end, the clanker still finesses IDAPython just fine. | | |
| ▲ | odo1242 a day ago | parent [-] | | Anti video-game-reverse-engineering, to be specific. It’ll refuse to decompile or reverse engineer any video game. | | |
| ▲ | not_a9 a day ago | parent [-] | | Just tossed the clanker at some stuff in Cyberpunk 2077, seems to be reversing it fine. Mind you I’m using my Claude sub in OMP so maybe I’m getting a less shitty system prompt (also I have the defensive CVP which presumably allows a lil more rev work than normal, though it’s still not enough for interesting things on Opus 5.5) It’d probably be trickier with multiplayer games given the slopmachine would probably assume you wanna cheat in it |
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| ▲ | sunaookami a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | They did not. Everyone has misinterpreted what Anthropic actually did and say. This attention economy is exhausting... This is what an Anthropic dev said: >"to steer it away from recreating someone else's specific game" This just means exact clones, not reverse-engineering. The article is blatantly lying. And easy to disprove by... trying it yourself. | | |
| ▲ | rs999gti a day ago | parent [-] | | From the article itself, "Regarding the blocking of reverse engineering, we have received direct confirmations. The first comes from our own alumnus Jarred Walton, who was trying to run checks on the software he's developing. He notes that such work had been performed with no issue until yesterday, October 31, and that switching to Opus 4.8 let him continue his work." |
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| ▲ | TremendousJudge a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | >vibekiddie love this term, knew instantly what it means | |
| ▲ | himata4113 a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | depends if they decide to use any kind of obfuscation here to protect "IP" |
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| ▲ | odo1242 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I mean, why would you want to mod the desktop client of discord instead of the web client? |
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| ▲ | ecshafer a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
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