data centers = billionare scheme to take all our jobs away and enslave us.

Its not that hard to understand or deserves any gotcha questions. Maybe they should ask you how exactly do you plan to feed your family once all the jobs are gone and only ppl who have any say are data center owners. God i hate "well actually" tech nerds so much.

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elmer2 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This might be the case, but it's not going to stop the technology from stealing your jobs. Billionaires in countries like China are going to leap frog over the US in terms of technology or the billionaires here will just build there instead.

If you think Flock cameras are bad, you have no idea the kind of surveillance the Chinese government uses on their people.

As I've gotten older, I've stopped trying to help people help themselves. Instead, I just watch and close my door in their face when they beg for help.

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twiclo 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I can't tell if you're being satirical or not and that just proves my point even more.

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kingds 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

i get the impression that comment was tongue in cheek, but my unironic opinion is that AI is bad for humanity, and it's good and correct to oppose data centers on the grounds that AI is bad.

	▲	twiclo 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I hate AI. I dread going to work every day now. But it's here and it's going to happen. At least my county gets to benefit from it.
	▲	dominotw 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		ai is good. 10 ppl controlling ai is bad.

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keybored 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

According to The Reverse Centaur’s Guide,[1] capital investment in AI is so high that the only possible way for the investments to make enough (and to avoid a bubble) is if whole classes of jobs are automated wholesale. And of course that Capital then takes the saved money from that. Maybe some people dislike datacenters-for-AI based on that. Because it’s all part of the same scheme.

Maybe people who don’t quite like that should be more articulate about it rather than using seeming post hoc reasoning like “water”? I don’t know. In my experience the bar for frustrated-five-on-the-street is quite high if they want to avoid an aww-shucks this voting bloc and their social medias.

[1] https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374621575/thereversecenta...

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bakugo 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What part of it sounds satirical to you? It's all true.

AI companies don't exactly try to hide the fact that their end goal is replacing all human jobs.

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brookst 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Then it should be easy to cite your source. Let’s see the “goal = replacing all human jobs” announcement?

	▲	klhs an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I'm not bakugo, but here you go: "However, I do think in the long run AI will become so broadly effective and so cheap that this [this being areas were humans are likely to maintain a relative (or even absolute) advantage for a significant time that keeps them employed] will no longer apply. At that point our current economic setup will no longer make sense, and there will be a need for a broader societal conversation about how the economy should be organized." [1] "Over the weekend, Musk responded to an user on X that said that the humanoid’s Total Addressable Market (TAM) was the entire global labor market, [...]" [2] Altman is a little more cautious and thinks (out loud, I doubt he actually does) we'll all be artists on UBI, or something: "[...] maybe the jobs of the future will look like playing games to us [...] find new ways to play status games, ability to find new methods for creative expression" "And I think we need something like basic income to have a cushion and a smooth transition to the jobs of the future." "In a world where technology eliminates jobs, it will mean that the cost of having a great life goes down a lot." [3] These aren't very realistic or popular scenarios, but the people building frontier AI (ok, well, one of those three is not like the others...) wanted to get them out there. Seems people don't want to sign up for the questionable utopias. [1] https://darioamodei.com/essay/machines-of-loving-grace#3-eco... [2] https://eletric-vehicles.com/tesla/tesla-q2-earnings-here-ar... [3] all on X, https://x.com/sama
	▲	bakugo 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		It is indeed very easy: https://fortune.com/2025/05/28/anthropic-ceo-warning-ai-job-... https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/26/sam-altman-on-ai-jobs-may-go...

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fdsjgfklsfd 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Replacing human jobs should be the dream of all people. You want humans doing drudgery when it could be automated by machines? Why?

> And as I have mentioned the word labour, I cannot help saying that a great deal of nonsense is being written and talked nowadays about the dignity of manual labour. There is nothing necessarily dignified about manual labour at all, and most of it is absolutely degrading. It is mentally and morally injurious to man to do anything in which he does not find pleasure, and many forms of labour are quite pleasureless activities, and should be regarded as such. To sweep a slushy crossing for eight hours, on a day when the east wind is blowing is a disgusting occupation. To sweep it with mental, moral, or physical dignity seems to me to be impossible. To sweep it with joy would be appalling. Man is made for something better than disturbing dirt. All work of that kind should be done by a machine.

— Oscar Wilde, “The Soul of Man Under Socialism,” Fortnightly Review, February 1891

	▲	klhs an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		This is explicitly about manual labor. The things on the verge of being automated are precisely not in the "sweeping a slushy crossing" category. If Wilde was here to see the things the slop-peddlers are calling art, he'd be distraught.
	▲	dominotw 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Yea thats fine but you think they will distribute the wealth to you in particular? i mentioned it in my comment too > Maybe they should ask you how exactly do you plan to feed your family once all the jobs are gone and only ppl who have any say are data center owners. i am not conviced that markzuckerberg stays up all night building datacenters so he can pass on that wealth to you.
	▲	bakugo 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> I cannot help saying that a great deal of nonsense is being written and talked nowadays about the dignity of manual labour. There is nothing necessarily dignified about manual labour at all, and most of it is absolutely degrading That's unfortunate, as manual labor will be the only thing left if AI companies have their way.

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