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| ▲ | autoexec 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| That's how I react to companies wanting personality tests. |
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| ▲ | progforlyfe 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| While I love the "edgy-ness" of this, I remember doing something like this around 2013 in Manhattan and kind of enjoyed it. They had me go into a room, and gave me a paper with an open ended question: it was something along the lines of, write as much detail as I could about what happens when a user visits a URL in a web browser. E.g. explain as much as I know about TCP, HTTP requests, web servers, etc. I think I touched on how Cookies worked as well. No AI, no leet code, just old fashioned gauging someone's experience and communication skills. |
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| ▲ | intrasight an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | My first job interview in 1989 after college: Them: "Do you know TCP/IP?".
Me: "Yes".
Them: "you're hired" Job at the Westinghouse instrumenting nuclear power plants. Simpler times then. | |
| ▲ | _whiteCaps_ 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I love this test and will dive deep into switch debouncing on keyboards when they press the enter key. | |
| ▲ | nzjrs 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I did this as a test in 2018! Compares to the leetcode screens now, it was a dream | |
| ▲ | intrasight 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I'm fine with technical interviews that are "test-like", with questions and answers and discussion and with an engineer who is my technical equal. But this was not that. | | |
| ▲ | steveBK123 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | The more inhumane the screener the worse the job in my experience. Had one recently that waived me thru and then sent me straight to talking to senior management/stakeholders/etc but literally no one on the team itself. Couldn’t get a straight answer as to what team does, what role is for, real day to day I’d be walking. Only clear thing was scale of architectural mess stemming from a political mess… and not a lot of interest in changing it. They wanted a seasoned tech body to throw into the grinder 12-15hr days to replace the last one. No thanks. |
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| ▲ | bmacho 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm confused, I'm probably missing here something. By 'test' you mean a school-type paper exam, questions and answers? (On unspecified topics.) Why would you refuse that, when applying to a job? |
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| ▲ | hnlmorg 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| And I bet you both came away from that interview feeling like you’d dodged a bullet. The interviewer just as much as yourself. |
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| ▲ | Horffupolde 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Wow how tough. |
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| ▲ | raincole 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I honestly don't know what's so wrong about taking a test for a job, unless the job already requires some kind of certifications/licenses. I, personally, wish that my doctors and lawyers have passed some tests. |
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| ▲ | steveBK123 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | More often than not the test is at best tangentially related to the role. At worst it’s the biggest hardos on the team writing a bunch of brain teasers and gotchas as a hazing ritual. | | |
| ▲ | sgerenser an hour ago | parent [-] | | Hey, one day the fate of the company is going to hinge on getting an accurate estimate of how many ping pong balls can fit into a 747, and they'll be glad that they asked the right brainteasers. |
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| ▲ | aleph_minus_one 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > I honestly don't know what's so wrong about taking a test for a job, unless the job already requires some kind of certifications/licenses. You already have a degree from some university, and you already worked in software development for quite some time. So it's very annoying to do some test over and over again for every job application. | | |
| ▲ | toast0 24 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | > You already have a degree from some university, and you already worked in software development for quite some time. So it's very annoying to do some test over and over again for every job application. Ok, but there's no uniform grading in school or employment. We all know people who managed to get through university without learning anything and manage to hold a job in software development without knowing or doing anything. It'd be nice if a degree and a job history guaranteed competence, but it doesn't. Lots of professions can bring a portfolio and/or a sample of their work, but most software developers can't because the work is often propriatary and a trade secret, and anyway would need a lot of specific setup to operate. I've only taken test tests for government jobs, and they were laughably outdated; approximately nobody knew how much space was on a 5 1/4" floppy in 1998 when I took the test, but they were asking about 8" floppies, and I assume they still are, because the test had to go through some process and doing a new test would be expensive. But yeah, I expect a company to validate that I can both describe solutions to problems and turn that description into code. | |
| ▲ | raincole an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > You already have a degree from some university, and you already worked in software development for quite some time Yep. Now substitute doctors/lawyers/accountants/civil engineers into the equation and see how you feel about it. Surely they don't take a test for every client, but I'd consider the interview process more like a "workaround" for the lack of standardized tests for software engineers instead of the lack of respect. |
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| ▲ | gilrain 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Excellent choice! No amount of money feels as good as claiming the respect you deserve. |
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| ▲ | xyzsparetimexyz 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Haha owned |
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| ▲ | gosub100 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| It's also for liability. If someone comes in with the intention of suing them, they can point to the test and have objective evidence that the rejection was not based on race or gender. It also allows them to gather data after the employee gets established and succeeds or fails. Also in the mid 90s, you actually had to be smart to work in this field. There was no stack overflow or reddit to search. And CS programs were nascent. Companies certainly have taken it too far, but I don't blame them for some usage of standard tests. |
