How do things get fixed if not by litigation?

SiempreViernes 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Usually national associations get together, discuss issues, and come to some sort of agreement or recommendation that is then followed by most actors.

Litigation does of course occur but it's not the main mechanism.

	▲	DANmode 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		We try this in the US as well, it’s commonly referred to as “hopes and dreams”. Do you folks coordinate in the way described, and show success with it? (Would most people agree with you?)

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kube-system 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Some countries have regulatory bodies that are empowered to effectively regulate industry.

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adventured 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's a nice thought. I doubt it's true in reality. If it were true in this specific case for example, the industry wouldn't have the freezer situation to begin with (it implies non-effective regulation is already the context).

	▲	kube-system 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It is simultaneously true that: 1. many countries have higher regulatory burden than the US 2. that does not mean regulatory gaps don't exist The person above was simply pointing out that litigation is not the only way to solve a problem. Which is plainly true, you can simply require compliance via other legal means. For example, a government could create a regulatory standard for security and require vendors to follow it. Whereas in the US the political appetite is to be more hands-off and allow people make vulnerable products if the market allows.

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cortesoft 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Isn’t that just litigation brought by the government instead of private citizens?

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kube-system 2 hours ago | parent [-]

No, most of the activity or function of regulatory bodies is not litigation. Litigation would be the last resort.

	▲	cortesoft an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Litigation is the last resort in the US system, too. It is the threat of fines/damages that incentivizes a company to do right by its customers/other stakeholders.

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mongol 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Parent is not correct. Litigation certainly is a thing, but it is less prevalent than in the US. Perhaps the food chain will take the loss, be covered by insurance, and the insurance company will sue.

	▲	fhn 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		If not buy insurance, the customers will have to pick up the tab. Vendors sell the product/service and are completely responsible for any losses.
	▲	lotsofpulp 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		That is the same way it works in the US.