| ▲ | WhyComboNadir a day ago |
| It's a little Anthony Robbins-ish, but I like to think of something similar: Anything you put your attention on, grows. So keep your attention on what you're hoping for, not on what you wish would go away. Don't give negative things oxygen. (Of course this is all well and fine for someone of generally good character doing productive work; but can also be the formula for monsters to use that are "hoping for" things that most would find repugnant). Related, which I always loved: Winston Churchill "You will never reach your destination if you stop and throw stones at every dog that barks." |
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| ▲ | perrygeo a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| Great advice for negative things. Pay them no attention, after you've processed them (don't ignore them though!). For positive things, for future hope and dreams, one has to be careful. We know that visualizing a positive outcome can be counter-productive... Those who daydream about the perfect fitness routine don't go to the gym. Those who daydream about building anything are less likely to take the step necessary to actually build it. It's as though strong visualization of a positive outcome becomes a satiating reward in itself. Without any changes to reality, we become attached to the mere idea of possible future. Just as those dwelling on the past are dissociating from reality, those hoping for the future are willfully disengaging engaging with primary reality. All that is to say, it IS all about attention. So pay attention to the present. |
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| ▲ | 1659447091 a day ago | parent [-] | | > We know that visualizing a positive outcome can be counter-productive... [...] Those who daydream ... There should be made a distinction between daydream and visualization. Visualization in sports psychology is a very common technique that is widely used by athletes (amateur to top tier). I had also read about visualization/imagery having positive effects on motor recovery and performance. | | |
| ▲ | kwbr3000 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | From https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/the-happiness-lab-with-dr-la... Basically the idea is that your brain has a hard time telling the difference between the fantasy and reality and so you experience the reward which then sucks out the energy and drive needed to actually do the hard work. | | |
| ▲ | 1659447091 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Basically the idea is that your brain has a hard time telling the difference between the fantasy and reality When it's "fantasy" the experience of reward "sucks out the energy and drive". I'm referring to there being a difference between fantasy/daydream and mental visualization as the deliberate construction of detailed mental imagery of a desired performance or outcome [0] When you do it while lost in fantasy it's not deliberate, but when it's an intentional process it becomes beneficial. The brain having a hard time telling the difference between real and imagined is neutral, the how and intention behind that imagined activation tells if the outcome is positive or depleting [0] https://www.simplypsychology.com/articles/visualization-tech... |
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| ▲ | 1-more a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Related, which I always loved: Winston Churchill "You will never reach your destination if you stop and throw stones at every dog that barks." This seems to be a rewording of https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/the_dogs_bark,_but_the_carava... |
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| ▲ | Slow_Hand a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Reminds me of a lesson from my motorcycle instructor: “When you see an obstacle in the road that you have to dodge, keep your eyes on the place you want to end up, not on the obstacle as you steer away from it, lest your body unconsciously steers you right back into it.” It’s not a perfect metaphor, but I think of it often to remind myself not to focus on the outcome I desperately want to avoid. |
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| ▲ | InsidiousWombat a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Doesn't work well if not giving attention to problem doesn't stop that problem from being worse, but just allows it to grow Unless you literally mean "don't give oxygen", then yes, people generally die off that so the problem would be solved. |
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| ▲ | WhyComboNadir a day ago | parent | next [-] | | You're right, and there's a nuance. You absolutely have to deal with tactical threats, but be careful not to go from threat to threat, because there'll always be I've seen businesses, especially software, do this where 99% of the company's effort was in "doing the right thing" by supporting their last product so much they were never able to put any effort into a better product. Getting out of this is where the right CEO earns their pay. | |
| ▲ | Imustaskforhelp a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | In some sense, my interpretation is to basically focus on what matters personally and in that, try to focus on the positive and to not worry about the societal issues which are out of your hand. Even logically, most likely these societal issues are coming for everybody and what you can do is to be best prepared for them which inevitably means to focus on yourself (which is a good advice as ever at any point of time). So why worry about societal issues and instead not just focus on what matters personally and something which you can take an action on and improve upon (Similar to Stoic philosophy maybe) (I struggle to live by these words, Hopefully I improve, I am trying to watch negative news less nowadays and would like to focus more on hope and personal growth) |
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| ▲ | tehnoban a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Don't give negative things oxygen. words to live by, if you can. |
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| ▲ | hibikir a day ago | parent | next [-] | | There are things one can call negative that are really realism trying to save you from very bad decisions. See the negativity of telling the boss at Theranos that the tests don't work. I've seen many a startup fail in large part because they spent their runway unwisely, as cheap tests that showed that the existing direction had structural problems were just seen as negativity speaking. There is such thing as negativity that will ruin your mental health, but the other side is just embracing delusion. We can see examples of successful people that keep embracing the delusion and succeed. But there are many that end up in unrecoverable positions after they burn themselves to the ground in said delusion. Around me, there's far more of the latter than the former. | | |
| ▲ | Sir_Twist a day ago | parent | next [-] | | “The genius of evolution lies in the dynamic tension between optimism and pessimism continually correcting each other.” - Martin E.P. Seligman, Learned Optimism | |
| ▲ | ramblerman a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | > See the negativity of telling the boss at Theranos that the tests don't work. That's not a typical definition of negative things. I'm not disagreeing with your ultimate point but it already feels like a mental stretch to include that in the set of negative things. It could be that your boss is a negative entity, but the act of disclosure isn't in my world view. |
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| ▲ | bluefirebrand a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I wish I had this sort of temperament Cognitively I know it's better to just focus on the future and what I'm doing but I really struggle to walk by stuff without engaging. It's a flaw I'm aware of and am trying to work on, but it feels impossible to get where I want to be It does not help that I am nearing 40 and the past "things I am hoping for" have never really worked out how I wanted. I think it becomes harder and harder to hope when your hopes have been squashed frequently in your life It's a real privilege to have a life where things actually work out close to how you want them. Hard work alone does not get you there |
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| ▲ | bartread a day ago | parent | next [-] | | > I wish I had this sort of temperament I think this is part of the problem. You think it’s a temperament, but it’s actually a skill, and skills can be developed. Like all skills, developing it will be often difficult, frustrating, and uncomfortable, so when it’s like that you have to recognise that as part of the process. You’ll think you’re going against your nature when, in reality, you’re simply experiencing the tribulations of learning a new skill. Source: 50 year old man who used to throw many stones at dogs on a much more regular basis. | | |
| ▲ | bluefirebrand a day ago | parent [-] | | Sure, but like all skills different people will have different aptitude and ability to actually learn and adapt it That doesn't mean I don't try, but I'm just aware that certain things get under my skin and set me from 0 to 100 faster than I can take a deep breath and keep my cool | | |
| ▲ | saintfire a day ago | parent [-] | | In public face? Even if this was a mantra for royalty, I am positive that amongst peers and private lessers they will lose their cool and demeanor. Presenting a demeanor to a subset of humanity is much easier than the whole; on account of the loneliness acting 100% of the time presents. Code switching is pretty inate to humans, it would seem. |
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| ▲ | SoftTalker a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > a life where things actually work out close to how you want them This is almost nobody, by the way. It's another one of the illusions that has gotten worse with social media. | | |
| ▲ | bluefirebrand a day ago | parent [-] | | Yeah, that's why I say it's a privilege. It's not something everyone or even many people get |
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| ▲ | dclowd9901 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I think this "temperament" (or whatever you want to call it) _is_ actually a privilege, to be honest. If you have a family and you depend on things to go a certain way to keep your family from being out on the street, you _must_ consider the bads or possible bads of the world. You must allow yourself to be distracted by distractions so you can keep an eye on everything that affects you. To not do so is irresponsible and you put your family and your livelihood at risk. If I'm sitting pretty on more income than I need with very few obligations, sure, I can just "focus on the path" and "ignore the distractions". But how many people have that luxury? | |
| ▲ | thisislife2 a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | - Cognitively I know it's better to just focus on the future I think you should challenge that assumption first. In my opinion, there is a lot of merit to the "Live in the now" philosophy, instead of always ruminating (or contemplating) about the past and the future. Even with goals, I have been often advised to focus more on the tasks / steps to achieve them, rather than the end results. |
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| ▲ | godelski a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > but can also be the formula for monsters to use that are "hoping for" things that most would find repugnant
As an American, we don't like kings and queens because they are always monsters. Just as the very recent attempt to make a king has illustrated. And frankly, the wiki article even downplays Diana.The problem is they are explicitly saying to do things in the shadows. | Above all things our royalty is to be reverenced, and if you begin to poke about it you cannot reverence it... Its mystery is its life. We must not let in daylight upon magic
Without that daylight you can't differentiate monsters from men. They claim it's because you can't differentiate saints from men, but I'd make the claim that any man who wishes to be seen as a saint is more monster than saint.And we've seen what these people do in the shadows. The disgraced Andrew was far from the only Royal in the Epstein files. We saw what they did to Diana, who tried to shed some light. We've seen it over and over. I'll take the light, because I'd rather live in a world where we make things better than live in a world with the appearance of magic. The only magic is what we create |