| ▲ | lrvick 6 hours ago |
| You avoided hooking your TV to a surveillance capitalism company that trains on your data to manipulate you. Great! Then you hooked it to an external device of a surveillance capitalism company that trains on your data to manipulate you. Why? Or plug in a cheap mini PC running a TV friendly Linux distro and give your data to no one. |
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| ▲ | tristanj 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Completely wrong. Apple goes to extraordinary lengths, to the point of harming the usability of their products, to protect user privacy and avoid collecting user data. Apple could easily make tens of billions dollars extra if they spied more on their users. |
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| ▲ | solyin 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Not completely, not anymore. Apple's gotten a taste of advertising dollars via the App store. Search for product A and product B will pay money to come first. Apple TV advertises for the shows they've made in the Apple TV app instead of going to your library. Same for Books.app. The biggest indightment of Apple in my mind is the copy and pasting of links into iMessage. iMessages "helpfully" renders a preview so a dumb consumer doesn't have to see an ugly long text of a url. But in doing so, it also happens to hides the utm code that is used for tracking by marketers. They've got their eye on that tens of billion dollars extra. | | |
| ▲ | brookst 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | While I dislike Apple’s move to ads, I’m at a loss how accepting money to degrade search results is a privacy issue rather than just a UX quality issue. What information is Apple sharing with advertisers? | | |
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| ▲ | afavour 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Does Apple sell data on what I’m watching to third parties? Linux is not a viable option for TV for the vast majority of users. There are no sit back, remote driven apps for the services they use. |
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| ▲ | TedDoesntTalk 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | JellyFin or Plex. Personally i just use a Linux Mint desktop connected to the TV instead. Web browser for streaming and VLC for downloaded videos. But JellyFin and Plex exist for people who don’t want that. | | |
| ▲ | afavour 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Jellyfin and Plex cannot stream from major streaming providers. Yes, I know the answer is pirating content but that’s a complete paradigm shift compared to what most people are used to. It’s an absolutely enormous extra requirement when you’re suggesting someone switch their TV to Linux. | |
| ▲ | drnick1 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | What the parent is saying is that the desktop versions of those programs are not remote friendly and the interface is not ideally scaled for 10-foot use. What you want are the Android TV versions, running on Waydroid or an x86 build of Android TV. See my other reply. |
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| ▲ | Geezus_42 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | KDE Plasma Bigscreen? |
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| ▲ | azinman2 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Apple is not a “surveillance capitalism company that trains on your data to manipulate you”. The exact opposite, actually. Source: I work at Apple. The privacy story isn’t just marketing, it’s very real and part of every discussion. |
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| ▲ | sneak 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| You know why. Nobody wants to sysadmin their “friendly Linux distro” just to watch shows. Kodi is amateur hour compared to tvOS. Nowhere do people care more that it “just works” than the thing their TV remote talks to. |
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| ▲ | epihelix 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Nobody in the general public wants to do that, but I'd think some in the HN audience might feel differently (I mean, setting this up is part of the fun). Personally, I use an RPi4 with libreelec, and it works great - including responding to my remote via HDMI-CEC. (There's also no need for any sysadmin with libreelec, which is designed to work out of the box.) | |
| ▲ | qweqwe14 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I literally bought a mini PC, installed Arch with KDE via archinstall, installed chromium, and haven't done any "sysadmin" since. Yes, it "just works". Why wouldn't it? | | |
| ▲ | sneak 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You don’t have HDR and can’t pair and then send audio to bluetooth speakers via only the remote in 100 seconds. These basic things are table stakes. It does not “just work”. | | |
| ▲ | olyjohn 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Oh no! It might take more than a minute to connect to my brain rot! | | |
| ▲ | anonym29 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | The standard that the comment you're responding to is that the whole solution must be effortless even for someone with an IQ of 75. Don't try to stoop to their level, no amount of freedom or control justifies any level of effort to people like that. They'd rather have a system that forces them to view and verbally respond to ads every 10 minutes than one that requires them to learn anything more complex than what a toddler can figure out. |
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