I think the days of releasing new programming languages is gone, it's like releasing a new punch card format. Humans don't code anymore and so programming language is really a choice LLM's make for you.

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jenniferhooley a day ago | parent | next [-]

What leads you to think that? All the engineers I know always choose the language depending on the project details, scope, their own or team preferences, etc.

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small_model a day ago | parent [-]

They ask Claude or some other model, this is the correct thing to do though, given it has the whole internet of software engineering history trained into its model and can read thousands of articles docs in seconds.

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ninalanyon a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Humans don't code anymore

I find that difficult to believe. Is there some objective evidence?

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DenisM a day ago | parent | next [-]

I can supply anecdotal evidence - of all the people I stay in touch with only one person occasionally opens IDE to write code. This transcends from interactive client apps through novel database engines.

AI is undergoing cosmic inflation, we get further apart faster.

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mllev15 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I guess I’m not human

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small_model a day ago | parent | prev [-]

The ones that do are at a massive disadvantage, like someone writing out machine code by hand vs using a compiler back in the day.

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		Someone who can write assembly will always be at an advantage over someone who can’t. Yes even in the agentic era.
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		This feels like a photographer telling a painter that they're at a massive disadvantage and that no human paints by hand anymore. Meanwhile painters still exist and are probably not particularly upset by how many pictures per second a DSLR can do. > like someone writing out machine code by hand vs using a compiler back in the day Programming using a compiler is still the same kind of thing, just in a different language.
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		I was a programmer back in the day. That statement is simply misinformed.
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		This is a silly take. I think you underestimate how talented some programmers can be. I think you also overestimate how far being good at coding will get you. Pre-LLM, the job was maybe 30% coding. So at worst someone who codes by hand is only disadvantaged by a manageable amount.

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RetroTechie a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Quite the contrary: the barrier to rolling your own <anything> was never lower.

As others have proclaimed: what matters is taste. And (perhaps?) a deep understanding of the subject matter. Which may or may not be encoded in formal specifications. But may also include 'fuzzy' domain-specific knowledge that can't be scraped from the web.

> Humans don't code anymore

I do, and I'm far from alone. Whether 'product' gains traction, that's another matter. But you know what? It doesn't matter. If it works for [author], that's enough.

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Rochus a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why? Did mathematics end when pocket calculators became popular? As today, the world initially overreacted (as usual): calculator opponents did warn about dependence, loss of arithmetic skills, and erosion of mathematical understanding. Making an existing exercise easier does not establish that the underlying discipline is in jeopardy.

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ModernMech 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Even if we accept the premise that humans don’t code anymore, it doesn’t follow that programming languages are not needed - the AI machines are writing more code than humanity has ever produced. So if anything, the need for better languages is more urgent than ever.

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jibalt a day ago | parent | prev [-]

"The days of the very thing happening here are gone."

Uh, no.