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| ▲ | whatever1 19 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| Where? I am not aware of any significant business improvement on the actual bottom line. We all feel more productive. But did your rust rewrite or my fancy react dashboard produce more value? |
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| ▲ | Hnrobert42 8 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I advise a B2B startup that went from 4 developers to just the founder, who is technical but not a developer. It is now profitable and delivering just as many features with arguably better security. N=1 | | |
| ▲ | whatever1 4 minutes ago | parent [-] | | So the price of the product will just fall by 80%, unless nobody else cares to compete. |
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| ▲ | onemoresoop 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I know it sounds crazy but for the amout of investments AI has underdelivered. |
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| ▲ | adventured 42 minutes ago | parent [-] | | GPT 3.5 is 2022. In the past ~18 months the majority of all human software development has been wiped out and the models keep getting better rapidly. AI has already radically overdelivered and the biggest returns are in the next 10, 20, 50 years. It's 1987: The PC is underdelivering. It's 2000: the Internet is underdelivering. It's 2010: smartphones are underdelivering. | | |
| ▲ | afpx 19 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Models are finally good enough that I'm confident that I can repeatably build pretty much any software reliably in less than 2% of the time that I could before 2022. I wouldn't have made that claim 6 months ago. Even quantized local models like Qwen3.8 are good enough to handle a lot of drudgery. The caveat is that I developed software for 30 years, so I understand most of what it produces and can guide it to make fewer mistakes and fix what it can't do. The biggest challenge has been keeping my requirements focused - it's very easy to gold plate everything and prematurely optimize. The biggest question I ask myself is why am I even still doing this. The smart people are probably already trying to figure out how to pipe raw matter and energy to their homes to build replicators. The future is already here, it's just not evenly distributed. | |
| ▲ | malfist 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > In the past ~18 months the majority of all human software development has been wiped out What the hell does this even mean? Literally half of the code in operation I the world is still COBOL. The fuck is this nonsense wiped out | | |
| ▲ | adventured 23 minutes ago | parent [-] | | It means in corporations across the globe, the majority of code is no longer being written by humans. That is over and it will only keep dwindling by the quarter. | | |
| ▲ | malfist 14 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Writing lines of code by hand is all of human software development? Pretty sure in all of those companies its still software engineers writing the code, even if they're using LLMs to do it. Unless you're making the claim that software engineers aren't involved or that only writing code is software development. |
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| ▲ | eudamoniac 34 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Making your engineers use AI with little to no measurable improvement, but with very measurable high cost, is not delivering | | |
| ▲ | adventured 24 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Astra, Fable, Opus 5.5 are drastically beyond the capabilities of the median software developer. It's not remotely close. The bottom 2/3 of the human market is entirely dead. Their jobs are gone (AI-shored) they just haven't all gotten the forced retirement or pink slips yet, while they click a few more prompts for a few more pay checks. The frontier pushing forward will knock out most of the remaining top 1/3 without breaking a sweat over the next few years. The really good developers will graduate into babysitting AI as managers. It is legitimately sad, it's millions of high paying jobs just in the US alone. It's going to be brutal on the housing market. Automation came for another field. |
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| ▲ | BobbyTables2 30 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The latest Claude models are spooky. About 100x faster then a senior developer snd utterly spooky in the speed and depth of analysis. This isn’t the “hallucinate everything” style of model like the earlier GPT models… |
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| ▲ | lovich an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What AI lab is profitable? And in before ‘JumpCrissCross chimes in about inference being profitable while ignoring all the investment costs needed to get inference to where it is. |
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| ▲ | cosmicgadget an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Profitability is an awfully narrow metric. | | |
| ▲ | gradus_ad 26 minutes ago | parent [-] | | It's a powerful metric. It captures to what extent something is sustainably possible today. |
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| ▲ | redwood an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Anthropic as of a few months ago. | | |
| ▲ | gamblor956 an hour ago | parent [-] | | That explains the 80 Billion loss on their IPO disclosures. | | |
| ▲ | cscheid an hour ago | parent [-] | | I mean, it literally does. Something like 70+ billion of those 80 billion are accounting adjustments because their debt is supposed to be handled in stock and their stock price skyrocketed. | | |
| ▲ | gamblor956 26 minutes ago | parent [-] | | While I was being facetious, Anthropic is nowhere close to being profitable in the normal, i.e., GAAP meaning of the term. It's only using unicorn fantasy lalaland financials that they are "profitable." Before someone else jumps in talking about "unit economics": unit economics only matters if you can sell the units long enough to make the initial (capitalized) investment (i.e., R&D) back. Models aren't commercially viable long enough for the unit economics to work. |
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| ▲ | adventured 40 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Why have they needed to worry about profitability? They have been chasing extreme growth with cheap money. That enabled them to hyper scale at a pace the world has rarely seen before. They have made the correct choice so far. The absolute dumbest thing they could have done up to this point is slow down to try to turn a profit. They have not needed to. Market capture is the sole thing they should be focused on. Here's a hint: how many users does GPT have now versus three years ago? There appears to be very widespread confusion about what purpose turning a profit serves and how business operations actually work. Go back in time and tell Uber in ~2013-2015 that it needs to immediately become profitable and not focus on capturing the market. |
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| ▲ | aplummer 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Can you name 3 ways is positively impacted the average non tech persons life in a meaningful way? Meaningful would be more than the invention of the microwave, but not as important as a vaccine. |
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| ▲ | ozim an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I am not going to make up 3 things but it meaningfully replaced Google search that became unusable crap. Downside is that OpenAI is already having ads on their chat interface, so I guess it will be crap any time soon. | |
| ▲ | hdgvhicv an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Microwave took decades from invention to being normal. VHS took weeks. The difference was pornography. | | |
| ▲ | jgalt212 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Microwaves are still of limited utility. | | | |
| ▲ | gamblor956 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Microwaves were popular from the beginning after residential models became avaliable in the 1960s. |
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| ▲ | IshKebab an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | We're at the dot com boom stage of AI. You could say it didn't deliver because boo.com didn't make a profit or because the average person still used paper maps, but that was just because of momentum. It's the same with AI. The technology is here now. My friends in financial advice and market research have not lost their jobs immediately, because of momentum. | |
| ▲ | vuurmot an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | 1. destruction of the digital arts (music, 2d/3d art) industry 2. greatest hacking tool in history 3. greatest corporate espionage tool in history (stealing of Navier-Stokes solution) 4. greatest accountability transfer tool in history (whoops it was the AI that shot those missiles) 5. greatest capital raising tool in history (we use AI in our startup, and you should give us money) 6. greatest scamming tool in history (cloning people voices for scam calls, etc..) Edit:Whoops, I didn't read "positively" | |
| ▲ | redwood an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Democratization of information. I think it's a similar jump a pre-internet search to internet search... | | |
| ▲ | skeeter2020 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I find it kind of odd that you equate a small oligopoly of intermediaries gatekeeping information as "democratization". Similarly Google maybe made it easy to find for a while, but that was/is not democracy either. | |
| ▲ | vuurmot an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | google?
anna's archive?
arXiv? "democratization of information", maybe if you were too lazy to click on a google link |
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