Already obsolete- who keys anymore besides youtube slop peddlers?

Just go full cg or full ai gen.

udbhavs 36 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I'm not sure if this question is in good faith. I would ask whether you have any proximity to any sort of creative or filmmaking work (in response to "who keys anymore"- several, several, examples), but it's honestly worse if the answer is yes. I hope the field isn't so far gone that we're genuinely asking what's the point if, god forbid, someone wants to put a real person in front of a green screen instead of a generative avatar.

	▲	imaginationra 20 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Haha- yes a filmmaker for 25+ years- had an original self made/produced animated feature film in the Sundance film festival, have made 6 original animated feature films- I've made several green screen heavy projects in the past- they suck for everyone involved except vfx companies/software or plugin companies. I'm still making films- heavily modified game engine cg + mocap- green screen is terrible for everyone and its a good thing its dead.

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ilaksh an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think there is still a little bit of room for green screen. At least maybe until Seedance 3.0 in a few months.

But it is interesting how video generation turned the corner from several months ago to now. I think the next AI project they do probably has to be with a generative tool even though they may be very hesitant to do that because they don't want to emphasize AI models that threaten their own jobs.

But I remember when they did the Project Greenlight thing which resulted in a massive list of desired projects from subscribers that they could not possibly make a dent in.

I think in the next several months they may be able to revisit that or at least some of the projects that had to be shelved due to lack of time. To make that possible they would leverage the latest generative AI models and workflows, possibly a few that haven't been released yet. But we are rapidly approaching the point where the models plus tooling is good enough to replace 95% of the technical work, and it's down to creativity. I think it's only a couple of years before that progress bar really maxed out.

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imaginationra an hour ago | parent [-]

Indie filmmaker who had an original animated feature film in Sundance featuring lots of green screen in it many years ago- green screen is dead- game engines + pure cg/2d anim are the future of indie film-

Directors hate green screen, actors hate green screen- obsolete visual fx artists larping as storytellers/filmmakers love green screen.

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Dylan16807 35 minutes ago | parent [-]

Actors dislike green screen but do you think they like pure CGI more?

	▲	imaginationra 15 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		No- but actors are unnecessary puppets- nowadays I don't need actors which is great for me as a director- as an animator you act out all the shots/scenes yourself anyway- and nowadays you can just do the mocap/change your voice etc- human actors are not needed anymore and thats a good thing. The status quo will slowly replace the human actors with ai one's. Actors have been given this ridiculous unwarranted status in modern times- they are nothing but puppets so who cares what actors think? They are just puppets that play make believe that they don't even make up themselves = redundant.

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rtkwe an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Movies are absolutely full of background replacement and other things that require keying.

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imaginationra an hour ago | parent [-]

So its for mainstream film studios? Thats tired status quo stuff.

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zardo 41 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Then cg is also tired status quo stuff. I'm working on brain generated imagery where a carefully engineered prompt causes the user to picture a scene directly in their mind.

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cubefox an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

You seem unsure what to dislike more: "youtube slop peddlers" or "tired status quo stuff".

	▲	imaginationra 14 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Both and now they are one in the same.

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0x696C6961 25 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Jesus dude, go back to reddit.

	▲	imaginationra 12 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I'm not on reddit this is hackernews- I am an indie filmmaker and a programmer amongst other things. Are you a bot?