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▲ vrganj 4 hours ago

> colonialism requires forced intervention

According to who?

Can I recommend a work by a certain Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, that was concerned with this exact mechanism and described it in detail?

Let me know if any of this sounds at all relevant to the situation we find ourselves in:

> For capitalism to generate greater profits than the home market can yield, the merging of banks and industrial cartels produces finance capitalism, and the exportation and investment of capital to countries with undeveloped and underdeveloped economies. In turn, that financial behaviour divides the world among monopolist business companies. In colonizing undeveloped countries, business and government will engage in geopolitical conflict over the exploitation of labour of most of the population of the world.

> Therefore, imperialism is the highest (advanced) stage of capitalism, requiring monopolies to exploit labour and natural resources, and the exportation of finance capital, rather than manufactured goods, to sustain colonialism, which is an integral function of imperialism.

> Moreover, in the capitalist homeland, the super-profits yielded by the colonial exploitation of a people and their economy permit businessmen to bribe native politicians, labour leaders and the labour aristocracy (upper stratum of the working class) to politically thwart worker revolt (labour strike) and placate the working class.

This was Wikipedia's tl; dr of "Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism"

Here's more if that sounded elucidating: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperialism,_the_Highest_Stage...

▲reliabilityguy 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

For some reason neither of those bad things prevented Lenin and his successors to oppress their own people.

▲Sabinus an hour ago | parent [-]

Or restrained them from imperialism.

▲yipinwong 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You left out "choice" part. And you confused capitalism with colonialism.

If you did that on purpose, you brought up whataboutism.

- I aint playing your game diverting attention from my comment.

▲vrganj 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> You left out "choice" part.

Could you rephrase your argument here? I'm having some trouble understanding this sentence fragment.

If you're trying to pull up some old trope about how people are choosing to get shit wages for shit work, then let me remind you that the alternative is starvation . Some fine choice.

> And you confused capitalism with colonialism.

I didn't confuse anything, I linked a famous piece of political theory positing they are interlinked phenomena.

> If you did that on purpose, you brought up whataboutism.

I'm also confused by what you are trying to say here. Who brought up whataboutism? I never spoke of it? Didn't you just bring it up? I'm confused.

> I aint playing your game diverting attention from my comment.

Nobody's diverting. I was directly engaging with it and providing some theory to further understanding and illustrate different perspectives on a term people sometimes get tripped up by.

It is telling you perceive anything but uncritical agreement as diversion. I would encourage you to bring the spirit of curiosity the guidelines call for.