| ▲ | win311fwg 4 hours ago |
| "Fake posting activity" is a weak framing. It is real activity. The risk in allowing AI-generated content is that users will be able to sniff out low-quality content produced by AI that they don't find engaging, but if they don't like it they can always leave. If users love it then AI-generated content is not bad at all. |
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| ▲ | xp84 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Here’s the problem - it’s the same problem in many areas where AI is put to (ab)use: I already have my own AI accounts. Several of them, really. Some of them paid. For work and for personal. If I want any kind of take from AI, which is in fact a very frequent occurrence, I can just prompt for one. For free even! And with my choice of model based on how important or complex the topic. There is zero value-add for me when some product decides to squirt an extra helping of AI somewhere it wasn’t needed. Summary of a long piece of text (while still giving access to the unabridged text)? Probably fine. An AI answer to a question someone else posted on a forum? Or injected above my web search results (looking right at you, Google)? No thanks! |
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| ▲ | win311fwg 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | I'm not sure you have explained the problem. You have explained why PhysicsForum might not appeal to you, but it doesn't have to appeal to you. It is not a problem if it doesn't appeal to you. It never appealed to most people. | | |
| ▲ | random3 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Xp84 made a clear description of the real problem— i.e the one everyone talks about and which the OP is about too. You’re basically saying that if “you have a problem with something, then it’s your problem” - well shit - that’s exactly the meaning of having a problem with sometimes and you’re literally restating it saying it’s in fact not a problem— presumably because you want to be contrarian on the internet, or why is that not a problem? | | |
| ▲ | win311fwg 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | The thing is that, by common definition, a problem ceases to be a problem when there is a solution. To not remove problems from the pool once they are solved would leave everything to be a problem forevermore, which isn't useful. I appreciate your desire to want to play a game of semantics and pet definitions so you can get your pent up angst out, but it is uninteresting. To restore good faith, how about you introduce an actual problem into the discussion? | | |
| ▲ | random3 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | By the same definition wars are just procedural ceremony establishing the right solution to a problem. Stalin, Hitler also offered “solutions”. | | | |
| ▲ | nyeah 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I can easily follow xp84's comments and random3's comment. I see no games with semantics, just a straightforward complaint about dishonest use of AI slop. Which the site owner acknowledges. | | |
| ▲ | 9rx 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Given your understanding and emotional disconnection, perhaps you can rationally explain their position? There is complaint, like someone complaining that they don't like your new haircut, but it is ultimately not their haircut to worry about. How is your apparent poor choice in style a problem to the onlooker? |
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| ▲ | misnome 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Why would anyone go to a forum for AI-generated content when they could just ask the AI themselves? |
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| ▲ | 9rx 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Why not? AI needs an interface and there isn't one interface to rule them all, as evidenced by Photoshop still raking in money hand over fist despite ChatGPT having full photo editing capabilities. UI and UX matter. The appeal of online forums has always been that you don't have to ask; the UI puts topics in front of you. The AI labs haven't really offered anything like that, so it still rests on third-parties to provide that UI. A good product is a good product. The implementation details don't matter. |
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| ▲ | itishappy 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The "fake" aspect is the fact that it's presented as human activity. The risk is therefore that users identify low-quality content and then realize that the forum has no qualms about misusing/abusing existing accounts and misleading new ones. Are you excited to generate an account and communicate with experts such as the ones in the article today? |
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| ▲ | random3 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You also mean ”alternative truth” is the right framing to the otherwise weak framing of “lies”? |
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