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▲ bugake 2 hours ago

The race to make laptops thinner is pointless. I wish I could buy a thicker laptop that is more robust, repairable, expandable, and has better cooling, with the extra space filled with batteries.

▲Eueudhsbsj32 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> The race to make laptops thinner is pointless.

Perhaps for you, but I very much care about my laptop's size and especially it's weight, as I carry it around on a daily basis.

Repairing or upgrading it aren't really of interest to me, as I wouldn't be able to aquire the parts where I typically live anyway. And performance and cooling have already been more than good enough for me in most laptops for the last decade.

▲codedokode 25 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What is the profit for a manufacturer if you buy one laptop and use it for 10 years straight instead of buying a new one every 3 years?

Also they not only solder DRAM, now they solder keyboards so that you cannot replace it easily. My garbage keyboard broke after just 2 years of using and I had to solder ~100 plastic pins to replace it (and the replacement keyboard turned out to be not of a great quality).

▲GeekyBear an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Until very recently, the low power version of RAM had to be soldered to the motherboard.

If you want the battery life improvements, bear in mind that there is a hard limit on how large a battery you are allowed to fly with, so low power components are important.

▲lwhi an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I genuinely don't think people care that much about thin laptops.

Could it be that thin laptops are largely an excuse to provide a need to solder RAM; which in turn encourages consumption through obsolescence?

▲stefanfisk an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I wish that my MBP14 was as thin as my partner’s MBA13.

Not to mention how often I long for my MBA11 with the tapered body which almost made it feel like it was floating in my lap when working from the couch.

▲youngtaff 11 minutes ago | parent [-]

My work laptop has just been ‘upgraded’ to a standard issue MBP14 and I so miss my MBA13 (fortunately I have one as my personal laptop)

▲skew-aberration an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My lenovo work laptop is crippled by poor cooling and can only sustain ~1GHz clocks on extended tasks. An old personal laptop 10 years older outperforms it.

▲groomlake an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Framework?

▲chii an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Framework does exactly what the GP claims to want.

Unfortunately, not many people making those claims _actually_ want them by revealed preferences. They overwhelmingly want the lower price laptops with similar performance specs.

▲mft_ 28 minutes ago | parent [-]

Or… there’s a level of value that people will assign to the repairability offered by Framework, but the current cost is too high?

I like and support what Framework offers. But when I last bought a laptop (a couple of years ago now) the FW13 was almost double the price of a similarly-specc’d and thinner/lighter Asus. (From €1000 to ~€18-1900).

I’d probably pay a ~40% premium for FW, all else being equal, but 80-90% is just too much: it just doesn’t make sense to whatever value-assessment algorithms I’ve developed over time.

▲topaz0 12 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Speaking of someone who did buy a framework as my primary computer (and has been happy with it), my hesitation had much more to do with uncertainty about the execution than with price, which is pretty competitive when you diy. Especially because for the value proposition to pay off, the company/ecosystem has to survive for several years at least and continue making compatible product in the categories I would want. It's a big investment for most people and it's not surprising most go with a safe/known option.

▲codedokode 21 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

13 inch screen is a toy usable only for browsing social media and not for real work.

▲BoxwoodSeed 3 minutes ago | parent [-]

You don't use your laptop as just a thin client connecting to a more powerful machine over the Internet?

▲codedokode a minute ago | parent [-]

No, I do not. We don't even always have Internet nowadays. And how does this solve the small screen size problem?

▲codedokode 22 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

It costs like how many standard laptops? 3 or 4? They use the most expensive CPU (but not having best cost/performance ratio) for example.