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▲ Macha 4 hours ago

> From this point on, every year "physical media & a Jellyfin install" is going to be more sensible.

Which of course is why physical media will increasingly rarely be offered as an option going forward

▲javcasas 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yarrr! The high seas are full of physical disks and have very few ads!

▲win311fwg 3 hours ago | parent [-]

For now.

▲SlimyHog 3 hours ago | parent [-]

What does this even mean?

▲paulryanrogers 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Discs are increasingly rare for newer media. Therefore rips from them will be rarer on the high seas.

▲digitalsushi 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Then old things shall become new again. And people may get the first taste of a world they have sought all of their young lives, and rejoice in a world recorded in media they may not understand: before default-irony, before default-sarcasm; many will not care for it, but perhaps some will delight that there is many lifetimes of media hiding there, on the bookshelf of humanity, covered in dust and ready to consume

▲jelloroll42 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Physical releases are having a Renaissance at the moment actually. See Vinegar Syndrome, for example.

▲skinfaxi 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Unless they beam it into our brains we will find ways to rip it. Even if it means recording it with a camera. Then cameras will have content id. But you can't stop the signal.

▲mckn1ght 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

By that point there will be enough digitized entertainment already produced to last a lifetime. We’re just on the long tail of diminishing returns now.

There’ll always be community theater!

▲Carrok 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

By that point? There already is and has been for years. Many more life times worth of movies and shows than any one person could ever hope to watch.

▲tavavex an hour ago | parent [-]

If we're going just off of the total runtime of all films ever produced, that point was probably already reached before WW2. But that's not entirely relevant, because an average person won't be equally interested in watching everything. There could still be increasingly small niches to fill.

▲Bud an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

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▲9rx 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The bad news is the camera sees the same thing the eye does (at least to a reasonable approximation), so that means you will still see ads in the output.

I already hear your wheels turning, thinking machine learning will provide a way to remove the ads from the content, but as the AI labs start to control all the compute they will assuredly insert their own ads into what you tried to remove.

▲Carrok 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Why would anyone need machine learning to edit a video? There are dozens or hundreds of free open source video editing programs. Only one person needs to edit the ads out.

▲cogman10 an hour ago | parent [-]

There's ffmpeg, you can do the editing from the commandline (I have done it that way :) )

▲cogman10 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

It takes 2 seconds for a human to remove an ad from media. It happens so fast there are even browser plugins (sponsorblock) which crowdsource removing sponsorship plugs from youtube videos.

You can do it with ffmpeg losslessly with pretty much any media.

The only thing that's hard to remove is sponsorships built into the script (brought to you by snapple), but people don't tend to like that sort of thing in a show.

▲unrented7977 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No? The various sites are chock full of web rips of streaming-only media. There is literally no way to prevent ripping.

▲SlimyHog 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Piracy sites also have webrips that never seem to be poor quality.

▲pdntspa 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

While that may be true, none of the major DRM schemes seem to get in the way of a scene release

▲win311fwg 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Whatever you want it to mean. Embrace your autonomy.

▲horsawlarway 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yup - my take is this is coming for absolutely everything. (it's already mostly here for tv).

Rent-seeking behavior is too good to give up, so companies will move all content to streaming only services (games, movies, tv, music, books, etc...) in the majority of cases.

Physical media will only be available at very high prices, for a very limited selection of content.

We will go from "doctrine of first sale" around content licensing to the utterly crippled "you own a temporary, non-transferrable, and ephemeral license to stream this content from us on exactly this service using only approved devices until we decide otherwise".

The moral action in this case is to simply stop paying. Period.

Long term - we should be fighting to enshrine a new flavor of "doctrine of first sale" for the digital age.

Ex - maybe purchasing any content license sold with the word "buy" should enshrine your right to use, transfer, sell, or otherwise consume in any reasonable form that content for the duration of the copyright + 7 years. And we will not enforce copyright for items that can't be bought (only rented).

▲maherbeg 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I think we'll end up seeing legislation against the license version of all of this content. Instead, you'll get to own it and move it around as necessary. This hasn't been necessary yet, but if that becomes the only option, then ownership becomes a more important question.

▲Vaushite 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Which donors will support that legislation?

▲nilamo an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Ideally, the same ones that supported the Right to Repair for farmers, against John Deere

▲Infiniti20 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

None. The donors are the ones profiting off of these licenses.

▲chorizo 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Local stores around here no longer carry blu-ray media since sales have fallen off and few people even own the players. Bought a bunch of clearance discs last year but that might be it.

▲isleyaardvark 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Fewer companies are making the players as well.

▲xgkickt 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I have several Blu-ray players from thrift stores. All they needed were cheap compatible remotes.

▲7bit 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

See SONY pulling out of the Blu-ray player market.