Anything having to do with datacenters bad gets headline news, because the appetite for it right now is intense.

The media plays trends, not importance.

samudrijan 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Deforestation in general is bad. See Brasil for beef, soya and Indonesia for palm oil and now data centers.

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		"My town put a dog park near the brook and now on top of the local chemical companies dumping waste, we have dog urine getting into the water. We need to ban dog parks."

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shimman 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Hype scale data centers are extremely important, why do you feel it necessary to dismiss the valid concerns citizens have regarding them? Why do you feel it necessary to protect the beliefs of a corporation over the populace? Are there other anti-democratic views you have regarding people questioning the intentions of American big tech?

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WarmWash 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

When people call out recycling because recycling plants use hundreds of thousands of gallons a day to wash off used plastic bottles (which all that sludge goes right back into the system), or they set their AC to 78 because of the incredible energy drain of cooling rooms to 70, I'll take those people more seriously.

I find that most of their "valid concerns" are actually "confused misunderstandings of social panic"

When we slot in datacenters on any hierarchy of impact, the only thing, literally the only they top the charts in, is "Makes a headline people click on". Everything else they're way down the list on. The stats are correct, the masses are just panicking.

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iAMkenough 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Who qualifies as "they" to you?

Random voices on the internet that may not be individuals? Random survey results published by someone you trust? People you encounter in your day-to-day life?

I find it fascinating that Google as a corporation is considered more trustworthy than "they"

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WarmWash 2 hours ago | parent [-]

They refers to the people propping up the social panic about datacenters such that it is worthwhile for news orgs to publish even the smallest stories about them.

None of the counter arguments come from Google or any of the other hyperscalers. Anyone with mild research ability should be able to put DC numbers in context on their own.

	▲	iAMkenough 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Do you have personal experience with “they” or are they faceless voices to you? If they’re faceless, they’re probably not real. If they’re real, what are they telling you? What face-to-face conversations have you had? I ask because you seem to know a lot about them.

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pessimizer 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You've made a lot of weird accusations here. 300 hectares of forest being cleared doesn't gain importance because "Hype scale" data centers are important.

Is "Shovel Purchased for Data Center Construction" an important story? If I say it's not, is it because I find it necessary to dismiss the valid* concerns citizens have regarding data centers? Is it because I find it necessary to protect the beliefs of a corporation over the populace? Is it because I hold loads of secret anti-democratic views regarding people questioning the intentions of American Big Tech™?

[*] Annoying question-begging, please never do this about any subject.