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▲ WarmWash 2 hours ago

When people call out recycling because recycling plants use hundreds of thousands of gallons a day to wash off used plastic bottles (which all that sludge goes right back into the system), or they set their AC to 78 because of the incredible energy drain of cooling rooms to 70, I'll take those people more seriously.

I find that most of their "valid concerns" are actually "confused misunderstandings of social panic"

When we slot in datacenters on any hierarchy of impact, the only thing, literally the only they top the charts in, is "Makes a headline people click on". Everything else they're way down the list on. The stats are correct, the masses are just panicking.

▲iAMkenough 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Who qualifies as "they" to you?

Random voices on the internet that may not be individuals? Random survey results published by someone you trust? People you encounter in your day-to-day life?

I find it fascinating that Google as a corporation is considered more trustworthy than "they"

▲WarmWash 2 hours ago | parent [-]

They refers to the people propping up the social panic about datacenters such that it is worthwhile for news orgs to publish even the smallest stories about them.

None of the counter arguments come from Google or any of the other hyperscalers. Anyone with mild research ability should be able to put DC numbers in context on their own.

▲iAMkenough 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Do you have personal experience with “they” or are they faceless voices to you?

If they’re faceless, they’re probably not real.

If they’re real, what are they telling you? What face-to-face conversations have you had?

I ask because you seem to know a lot about them.