| ▲ | an0malous 4 hours ago |
| Never trust a product that takes VC funding. Take advantage of the subsidized prices but have your backup ready. |
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| ▲ | allenleee 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Never trust a VC-backed founder who says, "don't worry ___ is not leaving" Source: In his May 2025 open letter to Arc members and subsequent public statements, CEO Josh Miller reassured users that while active feature development was ending, Arc would be maintained indefinitely. https://www.theverge.com/news/674603/arc-browser-development... |
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| ▲ | pphysch 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Indefinitely doesn't mean infinitely, it just means there is no defined end date at this particular moment. But that could change in the next moment, as it did. | | |
| ▲ | pessimizer 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Indefinitely doesn't mean infinitely It's another example of how euphemisms are poison. "Indefinitely" has come to mean infinitely, because of people using it to mean infinitely. The first step to fraud is to come up with a euphemism for what you're doing, and on of the the smartest things to do is make that euphemism an already existing word that already meant something different. Even better if that euphemism meant something more general that includes your meaning but isn't limited to your meaning. Or if it meant something totally different, but you want to eventually substitute your meaning with its original meaning within current laws or norms (see shoving the word "Open" or "Free" into software that are not associated with Open Source or Free Software.) The law should be dealing with this, but Western governments have abandoned governance for patron-serving. If somebody says "indefinitely" when it comes to a product or service, and people are known to be confused by that term, they should simply be forced to clarify. Same for "own"/"buy", "unlimited," or any number of accepted lies that have become standard. | | |
| ▲ | pphysch 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | I agree it's confusing, but that's the point, it's a weasel word. No court of law is going to accept an argument that indefinite == infinite, especially after it stops being indefinite (like TFA). |
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| ▲ | sandeepkd 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| As of today the eco-system favors a VC backed company for visibility and more. Building a company itself is hard, bootstrapping it when there are VCs willing to fund you feels like an unnecessary risk. |
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| ▲ | inhumantsar 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| what was Arc's business model even? |
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| ▲ | colesantiago 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > Never trust a product that takes VC funding. There are almost no startups today that can survive if VC funding did not exist, even more so now that AI and LLMs exists. Might as well not use any of them if they are funded by VCs or angel investors. And if not, how should they be funded? Donations? Not sustainable. |
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| ▲ | Lalabadie 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Sometimes I think I exaggerate how far into their own bubble the YC comments are. | |
| ▲ | vinyl7 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | How about by making money like businesses used to do in the olden days | | |
| ▲ | colesantiago 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Nope, Most people want services for free and now with vibe coding you can make your own. Not sustainable for anyone wanting to charge for software. | | |
| ▲ | c-hendricks 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | And when VC services enshittify so that the VC funders can get their money back, the market won’t also respond with vibing their own version? | | |
| ▲ | colesantiago 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Support and donate regularly to OSS or vibe code your own! Unless of course you're Stripe (which is VC funded) we still need an OSS version of Stripe. |
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