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▲ giancarlostoro 6 hours ago

I just want to buy a "Stupid TV" I wonder if such a brand would sell very sell "JustWatch TV" people in stores seeing how quickly it turns on, and just works, no internet questions, just a TV working. Must be revolutionary, can't believe we never thought of having TVs without an entire invasive OS that slows down the entire TV...

Every smart TV I own never gets internet access, ever. I just plug a real device that connects to the internet instead, they're a much faster and better experience.

▲adamsmark 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There are stupid TVs but they're more expensive since they don't have an ad subsidy.

I'm doing what you are - just don't connect it and you can enjoy ridiculously low prices on TVs.

▲keerthiko 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You are looking for a very large monitor. They are very expensive. TVs are large monitors subsidized by their adware.

▲drnick1 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Just buy a TV and don't connect it to the Internet. I have even seen people remove the WiFi daughterboard. That's essentially your "very large monitor." You absolutely do not have to endure the adware and privacy invasion of content recognition and other spyware. Beat the TV manufacturers at their own game.

▲imp0cat 3 hours ago | parent [-]

You can set your TV to "dumb mode" by choosing Apps only mode or Basic TV mode (might be only available for Sony Google TVs).

You definitely want to turn "Samba Interactive TV" off.

▲troupo an hour ago | parent [-]

> You can set your TV to "dumb mode" by choosing Apps only mode

Android TV has this. It didn't have ads for less than a year. Now the ads banner is there regardless.

▲LoganDark 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Or a TV where you can rip out the internals and replace them with some cheap dumb board. Not sure where you'd find a reputable one, though, as that's the perfect audience for hidden backdoors.

▲giancarlostoro 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Naturally I would say, but that doesn't have speakers... but you can't even buy a TV without having to buy a soundbar or any sort of sound system anymore. Infuriating.

▲drnick1 3 hours ago | parent [-]

A pair of bookshelf speakers will always dominate whatever speakers the TV comes with. It's a mandatory replacement in any case. There isn't enough physical space in a TV for good sound. Soundbars are crap.

▲NordStreamYacht 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's getting hard to get a dumb TV.

Try getting a display panel, like one of those used in restaurants to display menus.

▲Double_a_92 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not sure, but I heard that special Hotel TVs are basically that. They don't seem to be more expensive.

▲cadamsdotcom 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You may want that but you won't like its unsubsidised price.

Like it or not it's no longer viable to sell to consumers at "cost plus margin" - you're sold a loss-making unit and the size of the loss is based on how much LTV they expect of you.

Be happy it's cheaper for you, but be aware that as an informed consumer who's not plugging in your device you have negative LTV and are thus not the product's target customer and sadly are actually kind of leeching off their business model.

I'm sure you wouldn't do that if you had a choice. But the old business model is unviable now so no one's left except these jerks.

But hey, cheap TVs!

▲LukeShu 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> You may want that but you won't like its unsubsidised price.

I promise you I won't give a shit about the unsubsidized price.

▲orsorna 22 minutes ago | parent [-]

Thank you for your ancedote. I think OP is emphasizing that no, most people would give a shit because most people can't spend 1k on a panel.

▲ben-schaaf 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Monitors have also gotten incredibly cheap, and there's Sceptre who sell dumb TVs that are pretty cheap. So I don't really buy that they're selling TVs at a loss.

▲MrDrMcCoy 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Consider the differences in hardware and customized software between a dumb and "smart" display. They are not the same.

▲ben-schaaf 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Not sure the point you're trying to make, it sounds like you're agreeing that dumb TVs should be cheaper than equivalent smart TVs?