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| ▲ | doubled112 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It wouldn't need to drop grenades. It could pick you up, fly high enough, and drop you to your death. Never runs out of ammo, just batteries. This is pretty horrifying. Bonus points if you hit somebody on the way down? | | |
| ▲ | nostrademons 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | If a drone wanted to kill you, it would use a bullet. Cheapest and easiest way, with the least risk to the drone. The extraction case would only be for high-value targets (enemy military/economic/political leaders), where having them alive would give leverage on having them order their organizations to do something useful for the drone owner. | |
| ▲ | leni536 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Bullets are probably more economical. |
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| ▲ | toss1 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | for the Russian soldiers, it would certainly be a better fate than remaining on the field for a few more tens of minutes before they die (on average). AFAICT, they are treated better in Ukrainian POW camps than in the Russian deployed positions | | |
| ▲ | senderista 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Depends. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture_of_Russian_soldiers_in... | | |
| ▲ | toss1 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Right, highlight the one incident on the Ukrainian side vs the standard war-crimes treatment by the Russians, and yes, there are also a number of incidents during capture on the both sides. Also note the mismatch in POWs died in captivity returned by Ukraine (14) vs by Russia (>1000, as of [0]). And note the overall condition of Russian soldiers returned is well-fed, and Ukrainians returned are barely walking. It has been some 400 years since Cardinal Richelieu said "If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." [1] We can always find an exception to condemn someone. Our task is instead to try to get a fair grasp on what is happening. Highlighting the exceptional event out of context is not helpful [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoners_of_war_in_the_Russo-... [1] https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Cardinal_Richelieu edit: completed last paragraph; accidentally posted incomplete | | |
| ▲ | senderista 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | There are actually quite a few more documented incidents of POW abuse on the Ukrainian side than the one I linked to, but I think I would agree that there's probably more on the Russian side. I don't consider the amount of POW abuse on the Ukrainian side to be negligible though, nor would I expect it to be given how bitter this war is. | | |
| ▲ | toss1 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes, I'm sure it is not negligible, since it never is, even with the best-disciplined military. Adrenalin runs pretty high when people are trying their best to kill you and all your family, friends, and countrymen. But we must also be sure to balance when a country such as Ukraine tries to uphold a moral standard as policy, and when they fail, prosecutes the offenders, vs a country like Russia which makes a standard practice of war crimes. | | |
| ▲ | senderista 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Dude, the guys in the Tornado Battalion, who were convicted of absolutely horrifying sexual violence and other atrocities during the 2014 war, were pardoned and released from prison shortly after the war started. What kind of signal was that supposed to send? |
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| ▲ | senderista 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I think ideologically extreme volunteers on either side are more likely to commit war crimes than regular troops. The incident I linked above was perpetrated by the Kraken Battalion, which is basically the Kharkiv chapter of the neo-Nazi Azov Regiment (formerly based in Mariupol). Similarly, the horrific video of the castration/execution of a Ukrainian POW seemed to be related to Rusich, the Russian neo-Nazi volunteer unit. |
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