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mcswell 6 hours ago

And now, Moskva delenda est.

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whywouldyoucare 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Well, the nazis tried it with the Jews, now you are trying this with Russians.

I cannot but wish you the same end as that of your nazi predecessors.

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smallmancontrov 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Russia has been embarrassingly bad at conquering Ukraine, but it's truly incredible how thoroughly their talking points have conquered conservatives in the USA. They frame anything other than complete capitulation to Russian invasion as crazed aggression against Russia, as if Russia didn't send its conquering army out of its borders and couldn't withdraw that army at any time and be left alone.

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nickff 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>"They frame anything other than complete capitulation to Russian invasion as crazed aggression against Russia..."

This has been common among many groups for a long time; I recall the GWB administration proposing a missile interceptor system based in Eastern Europe in the mid-oughts, and Democratic Party members in congress opposed it as 'provocative'. The (Liberal) Canadian government of the time opposed that as well as the Alaska based 'shield' as being 'aggressive'.

I suspect this has something to do with (politically self-identified) disempowered groups generally wanting to 'shoot down' initiatives, but the Trump administration seems to have a different motivation.

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ted_bunny 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Just like Iran has been aggressively being encircled by our helpless inmocent bases for decades? Can't believe people are still swallowing this imperial propaganda. A tale as old as time and people still refuse to learn from it.

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smallmancontrov 36 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

No, those two things are not equivalent. Posture and capabilities are open to interpretation in a way that armies crossing a border and bombing your cities simply isn't.

	▲	nickff 13 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Shipping weapons, ammunition, and other supplies to one side in an active conflict is much more 'provocative' than building a facility located hundreds or thousands of kilometers from the border of a potential adversary. Most things which differ are not equivalent; pointing that out isn't helpful.

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MadrasTh0rn 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Think about what you can see on a political level and now think what you don't see towards children education where Trump started his work in 2017