| ▲ | mullingitover 2 hours ago |
| So this is a completely obvious scam, right? I don't see anyone else calling this out and I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. The thing that they showed off isn't something that they could legally sell, it would basically be a bomb. Also, the battery pack that would go in the car would be so large that they couldn't do the stunts they showed in their drone vehicle. Are we not calling an obvious stock pumping charade what it is out of some sense of politeness? |
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| ▲ | j4k0bfr an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| I feel like it's also crazy irresponsible to sell this deathtrap to the public, since it's pretty much guaranteed buyers will joyride this on public roads. - The cold-gas only version will shotgun debris into onlookers, and possibly yeet anyone behind it. - Active suction is very cool until a rock punches through your intakes. - Lithium batteries and pressurised tanks in the same package, yippee! Thank god it'll take them years to manufacture this thing. |
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| ▲ | zdragnar an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | It isn't being sold to the public. Of the three versions, the one that is "road ready" doesn't have the gimmicky thrusters. The one that is displayed is available by invite only, and even if you have a quarter of a million to reserve the racing model, you aren't likely to get a license plate for use on public roads. | |
| ▲ | javascriptfan69 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | They're not selling this to the public. They'll make a handful that a select few billionaires will get to keep in a hanger somewhere for bragging rights. There's a reason we don't see a driver in these demos and they don't do anything beyond very choreographed stunts. There's no way a human can actually control those thrusters in a way that doesn't kill you. Unless you're a fighter pilot. |
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| ▲ | Nition an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I suppose at least we can say there is a working car that seems to be able to actually do the things as advertised, which is more than one could ever say for e.g. the Moller Skycar. |
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| ▲ | billfor 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Well we could examine the history here, for instance when he bought Twitter that it would immediately collapse (now its more popular than ever and Bluesky is the one that's falling apart) and when the Cybertruck was announced there were lots of people saying it could never be made: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21602437 |
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| ▲ | 40four an hour ago | parent [-] | | It’s crazy how many Cybertrucks I see in my hometown, and I don’t live in that big of a city. They are incredibly popular. This car will be incredibly popular to. Peoples are getting bent out of shape about the “thrust” and “rocket” variants, but who cares? Those will be few and far between. For rich collectors mostly. How about just the base model? It looks wild, I’m sure it will be fun as hell to drive. They are going to sell a ton of these things. |
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| ▲ | tiku 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Well I see no numbers saying how long it will fly. Perhaps it "hops", could easily see that happening with a burst of air below the car. (While standing still, accelerating the car upwards for 1 second with a burst of air) |
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| ▲ | WheelsAtLarge an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| My big question is, would anyone want one? It's an interesting life size hotwheels car but who would want one other than to show at a monster truck rally. The original Tesla Roadster was a masterpiece compared to this new one. Talk about missing the mark by a mile... |
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| ▲ | euio757 an hour ago | parent [-] | | > who would want one The Tumbler? Oh, you wouldn't be interested in that. |
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| ▲ | testing22321 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Flying is obviously a gimmick, but when Elon said this will crush all track records he wasn’t kidding. The base model has the suction fans which will make huge gains. Next model up has rear thrusters for the acceleration, which will be more insane. It’s limited production. Final model that can fly is invite only and will be a joke on the track, using those thrusters to go around corners way, way faster than normal. I wish they had shown track laps and 1/4 mile times instead of the gimmick of flying. |
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| ▲ | mlindner 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think calling it a scam is a crazy thing to say. Tesla has never not (eventually) shipped a product they said they would . Also yes you can legally sell it. Whether you can legally operate it is a different question. |
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| ▲ | otterley an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | May I remind you of the promised 90 second battery swap…13 years ago? https://youtu.be/Oj6LaYFall4?si=RGE8mbZQFdElq0sq | |
| ▲ | charlesabarnes 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The roadster hasn't shipped after 9 years. Including a referral program for preorders. I find it incredibly more insane to be trusting of this | |
| ▲ | seabrookmx 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The second generation Roadster (reservations for which opened in 2017) literally is the product they didn't ship. Also Cybercab. How many Optimus robots are out in the wild? It is a scam, 100%. | | |
| ▲ | testing22321 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | There are now 300 cyber cabs driving people around Austin, and they’re working on rolling it out. Optimus is coming, the huge factory in Austin is being built now. Late? Always. But coming. | |
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| ▲ | billfor 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | He actually says in the video that it might not be legal to operate but they could still sell you one. Anything is legal off-road on your own private property. | | |
| ▲ | ygjb an hour ago | parent [-] | | Yeah, once you leave the ground you aren't on your property anymore. | | |
| ▲ | derektank an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Not true, though the exact boundary is not well defined. See US v. Causby https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Causby | |
| ▲ | fivefifty an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Depends where you are, but generally you are good to around 400ft above your own property in most cases. | |
| ▲ | billfor an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | FAA jurisdiction over the airspace is not the same as a rule prohibiting every form of powered lift-off within it. There's a lot of grey area in FAA regs - for instance you can land a plane on your lawn in class E (if you could manage it). |
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| ▲ | m463 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There are a long list of cars that have not-really-legal abilities. The corvette ZR-1 had a special key that would unlock all the performance. I don't think it met emissions when unlocked. Lots of newer muscle cars have performance modes and dragstrip modes that you shouldn't use. Even other teslas, like model 3 performance and model s plaid have have track mode and dragstrip mode that shouldn't be used on public streets. | |
| ▲ | alasdair_ an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | He took preorders for the roadster nine years ago. It never shipped. | |
| ▲ | bakies 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | this is a new roadster, the previous roadster hasnt sold a unit | | |
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| ▲ | speg 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That’s why it’s invite only. |
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| ▲ | sailfast 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| If you wanted another pretext to merge Tesla and SpaceX this would be a good way. The existing tech fab plus this car maybe makes it harder to sue once the merger happens - but he will still be sued. “Look we’re making it rocket cars with AI of course we should be one company” |
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| ▲ | estearum 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | A pretext that convinces the most credulous people on the planet. Clever guy this Musk. |
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| ▲ | adocomplete 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I mean is it ever actually being released? probably not. Was it a an amazing demo? yes. |
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| ▲ | leesec 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What are you talking about re: the battery pack? |
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| ▲ | akerl_ an hour ago | parent [-] | | This is an especially interesting comment given that it misunderstands the Dropbox comment in the common way. |
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| ▲ | tdhz77 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I was #12 Tesla Roadster owner. I spoke across the country with my father. We drove from coast to coast in 2014 at a time when there was a lot of doubt. — I supported elons “mission” and now we know it’s a neo Nazi front of a company. This company and Elon has been a scam since he stole JB Straubel. How do I know? JB Straubel is my father. |
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| ▲ | jacquesm an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I can't make soup of this. Your dad is a billionaire and you're left to fend for yourself? That's got to be some story. | | | |
| ▲ | matt-attack an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Neo Nazi? Seems a bit much. | | |
| ▲ | otterley an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | If it talks about politics like a Nazi and salutes like a Nazi… | |
| ▲ | tdhz77 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Elon donates to white Christian fundamentalist. The largest donor in history to the Republican Party and does Nazi salutes. |
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| ▲ | jrflo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think it’s real, the “invite only” version could probably do the kickflip over the semis, but would probably completely exhaust the tanks and require special equipment to refill or take hours with an onboard pump. And the flip is certainly a scripted stunt, not something you’d actually be able to do live. The math doesn’t seem to be completely unreasonable as a one off demo |
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| ▲ | al_borland an hour ago | parent [-] | | They said there is a compressor to re-pressurize the tanks while driving. It made it sound like a power-up in a video game. You can't use it all the time, but if you wait for it to charge up, use it as many times as you want. I think the bigger issue with be making it street legal. Kickflipping over traffic, and refusing visibility for everyone to 0 in the process, can't be good. For closed courses, movies, etc it's really cool. | | |
| ▲ | jrflo 40 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I don’t think it would be street legal, hence the invite only thing. More of a status symbol / car collector curiosity than an actual car |
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| ▲ | espeed 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| When I searched for Tesla on YouTube at the start of the event, the first live event returned was this, an AI generated Tesla presentation with Elon telling users to send bitcoin and he'll send you back double as a promotional event like an X Money thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5EDp2rEbFA. The QR code went to this site: https://roadster.tv. I reported it to YouTube. |
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| ▲ | phyzix5761 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| China has had flying cars since 2023 so I don't see how this is a scam. The flying mechanism is unique for the Roadster so that's still to be seen how it would perform out in public. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZpQZSBTi7k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2c-B3y7yGQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU5viDOjWLw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSjXf7IUSDw |
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| ▲ | crummy 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | wow i did not realise this. are there videos of these flying cars? can you buy them? | | | |
| ▲ | TheDong 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I mean, Tesla demoed, promised, and took reservation money for a roadster reboot that _also_ didn't contain any technology China didn't have in 2017, and at this point they still haven't delivered on that and it feels safe to call it a scam. Just because the technology is technically feasible doesn't mean that a specific company is not scamming you when they promise it. And Tesla already has enough of a history of fake promises (your tesla will be a self-driving robotaxi earning money while you sleep within a few years, FSD will take you across the country while you sleep by next year, humanoid robots, the new roadster is taking reservations now and will deliver soon, regulation is the only thing holding up FSD, etc etc). | | |
| ▲ | phyzix5761 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | To be fair the main reason why FSD hasn't been a wide spread thing is mostly due to local regulations. The technology exists and performs fairly well. FSD is allowed in pretty much all the same cities Waymo is allowed to operate so we can see from this that its a regulatory issue not a technological one. |
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| ▲ | m4ck_ 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I mean it looks cool but considering they haven't produced any of the other Roadster models in any meaningful quantity, and have repeatedly come up short on much more reasonable product offerings... Idk I have just the slightest doubt about a flying electric car hitting the market any time soon. Hasn't it been nearly a decade since the promise of a software update that would turn your Tesla into a self-driving taxi that can earn money while you're not using it? | |
| ▲ | bakies an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | none of these are videos of flying cars |
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