| ▲ | afavour 2 hours ago |
| Looks like a sensible turning down of the Cybertruck aesthetic into something that looks good. That said, the production issues with the Cybertruck mean you’d be a fool to reserve one of these. Let others do it, find out how late it arrives, what glued panels fall off at speed and wait for the inevitable recalls. Tesla has torched their engineering reputation lately and this page is making a lot of promises about revolutionary things. |
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| ▲ | gopalv 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > what glued panels fall off The Lotus Elise was famously glued together instead of welds. The original Roadster also had the same innards. This is clearly not a car for someone who wants to go from A to B, but a lot of Tesla components gets binned together for the next iteration of the cheaper car because they always order too many of them. Oddly enough this makes their cheaper cars more reliable than the expensive ones (think about the Audis right when Ferdinand Piech took over Lamborgini). |
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| ▲ | majormajor 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Oddly enough this makes their cheaper cars more reliable than the expensive ones That's pretty standard. An M3 has long pushed the tolerances of things in the engine more than a base-model 3 series. An S-class has more whiz-bang-hope-it-still-works-in-ten-years stuff than a C-class. A Lexus has more going on than a boring base Corolla. |
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| ▲ | nradov 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This type of vehicle isn't intended to drive at speed, at least not very far. It's targeted at collectors who will park it in a garage with their other supercars. It's a status symbol with wheels, not transportation or even a toy for track days. (And I don't mean that as a criticism, there's nothing wrong with wealthy people buying collectibles.) |
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| ▲ | luqtas 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > (And I don't mean that as a criticism, there's nothing wrong with wealthy people buying collectibles.) there's a whole lot of systemic issues with wealthy people buying low-poly cars to their collection. | | | |
| ▲ | alasdair_ an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | It’s not premium enough for collectors. I could see plenty of tech people buying one as a daily driver that they also take to the track though. |
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| ▲ | doginasuit 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That was my first thought, Cybertruck: The Car. But then it drove up a wall and stopped on the ceiling and flew down. That was awesome. I'm sure it will be a nightmare to own. |
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| ▲ | m463 30 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think the front view reminds me of the old lamborghini countach. https://digitalassets.tesla.com/tesla-contents/image/upload/... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Lamborgh... |
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| ▲ | jbm 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Everyone is talking about the Cybertruck, but both the 3 and the Y have plenty of engineering problems as well. I believe both cars are listed as below-average reliability by CR. Worse, there are no 3rd parties producing cheaper suspension parts, so your old Model 3 is going to have to spend 2000-3000$ on an yearly basis until you get sick of fixing the suspension. Tesla claims to have fixed the issue on newer models (and apparently they did a lot of work on the suspension), but they don't really take responsibility for their old cars so I doubt they will take responsibility when their design causes problems for you. I do enjoy driving my 2019 SR+ Model 3, but I hate when people do the whole "Well on first principles, EVs have less parts so they are more reliable..." thing. My Toyota Sienna has been far more reliable than the Model 3, despite having many, many more parts. |
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| ▲ | motionlessveloc 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Early Model 3/Ys built in the US were unreliable. The ones built in Shanghai, though, are excellent. Berlin is somewhere in the middle. FWIW, I'm into my fourth year of (Chinese-built) Model 3 ownership and it's been rock solid, the only services so far were to replace the air filter and wipers. | | |
| ▲ | Waterluvian 15 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Kind of a silly question but I want to be sure I’m piecing together a fair picture: both of those are five minute tasks you do yourself outside the auto parts store / driveway, right? |
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| ▲ | kibwen an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > My Toyota Sienna has been far more reliable than the Model 3, despite having many, many more parts. This is less about EVs vs ICEs and more about Toyota's engineering quality vs Tesla's engineering quality, which is hovering somewhere in the vicinity of Homer Simpson's barbecue pit. | | |
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| ▲ | combobyte 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > glued panels fall off at speed Given some of the tauted 'features' of this thing, I'd be more concerned about it blowing up in my driveway. |
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| ▲ | rgbrenner 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| at least the CyberTruck shipped. 9 years since the announcement of Roadster v2, people who paid 50k deposits are still waiting. Time to up the promises, and ask for more $50k deposits for v3! |
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| ▲ | m463 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I liked the rounded one lots better: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/NextGenT... |
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| ▲ | NewsaHackO 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
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| ▲ | estearum 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Tesla's most recent project was the largest flop in automotive history lol. | | |
| ▲ | mrheosuper 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | You mean Cybertruck? Hate it or not, there are bigger flops in automotive history. The history is long and broad. | | |
| ▲ | pseudosavant 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Not many. Elon said their plan was to produce 500k per year and they did less than 5% (15k) of that over the last year. Their installed production capacity is 125k. The Ford Edsel is widely regarded as one of the greatest car flops of all time and it sold 60k cars per year for their 2-year production run. The CyberTruck is a massively bigger flop than that. | |
| ▲ | estearum 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Name a few that you think are bigger and by what metric you think so. I doubt any program has lost the $1 to $1.5 billion that Cybertruck is reasonably estimated to have lost. And that’s including their quarter where SpaceX bought like 20% of their production for definitely-totally-legitimate-reasons. | | |
| ▲ | m463 25 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Following a loss of over $250 million (equivalent to $2.72 billion in 2025 dollars) on development, manufacturing, and marketing on the model line, Ford quietly discontinued the Edsel brand in November 1959, shortly after the 1960 model line was introduced https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edsel |
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| ▲ | bdangubic 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | definitely not biggest flop but it has by far the biggest hype-to-flop ratio. |
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| ▲ | henrikschroder 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The latest car Tesla released, the cybertruck, was one of the biggest automotive flops ever, production is essentially halted, demand is non-existant. Tesla announced and started taking reservations for their roadster TEN YEARS AGO. People who made reservations and paid the $50k-$250k cost are STILL WAITING. And now Tesla has announced yet another vapourware car, with a controversial design, taking reservation money again. If you fall for this, you are a fool. | |
| ▲ | LastTrain 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I don’t hate Tesla, I do think their leader is a Nazi Saluting prick though. You like him? | | |
| ▲ | mjmsmith 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I don't hate Tesla either. I'm actually a bit disappointed knowing that I will never consider buying one for the rest of my life. |
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