| ▲ | Ambolia 2 hours ago |
| Because it's the only country allowed get away with stuff that would be an international scandal if a normal country did it. |
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| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 14 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| > an international scandal if a normal country did it Russia, China and America each have notable offensive cyberwarfare capabilities. (Pyongyang is a nuclear-armed cybercrime ring at this point.) |
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| ▲ | AbstractH24 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Just like frontier models get away with things no humans would. |
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| ▲ | 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
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| ▲ | pphysch 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| More specifically, it can steal military and tech secrets from the USA and keep getting invited back. Total impunity. |
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| ▲ | beejiu 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Did we forget about Snowden? |
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| ▲ | nicce an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Everyone knows Snowden so I guess it was quite big scandal | | |
| ▲ | DANmode an hour ago | parent [-] | | Everyone knows Snowden was a bad boy who got himself into trouble. That’s as much as your mom knows. | | |
| ▲ | ARandomerDude an hour ago | parent [-] | | Circles probably matter. I am actively in communication with several hundred people of all ages outside of tech. I have never heard anyone say anything except: (1) positive of Snowden, and (2) negative of the NSA. | | |
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| ▲ | EA-3167 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | And Gitmo, lies leading to invasion of Iraq, Abu Ghraib, all of the times we whoopsies a JDAM into a school or wedding… But yeah the country under an eternal international microscope is the one “getting away with it.” | | |
| ▲ | mcmcmc 31 minutes ago | parent [-] | | US gets away with it because no one can challenge their military might, Israel gets away with it because any criticism of the state is “anti-Semitic”. Not the same thing |
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| ▲ | throwaway_fjmr an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
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| ▲ | 7402 17 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] |
| All normal countries spy on their enemies and all normal countries spy on their friends. All normal countries use cyber-espionage. All normal political groups condemn the actions of groups they oppose and excuse the same actions when committed by those they support. |
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| ▲ | emilsedgh 12 minutes ago | parent [-] | | 1. For all normal countries, if they get caught, there's consequences. For Israel there's no consequences even if they get caught. 2. Israel is embedded in US politics. So US government is allowed to purchase this from Israeli contractors but I doubt they would be allowed to purchase sensitive stuff like from a neutral country like UAE. So, the US is the customer and also protects Israel so Israel has built an entire industry around it. |
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