It really bothers me that every dick and jane website has normalized asking for your personal phone number. It's the first thing they ask when you sign up. At this point your phone number has become your social security number of the internet.

I don't care if fighting fraud is hard for you. Figure it out without stripping away my privacy.

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Plasmoid 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A lot of them also block voip numbers. This is obviously just a way to collect cell numbers that are easy to send spam SMS messages to.

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maherbeg 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I agree with this. They should have to keep some insane bond for every phone number they keep to pay out when there is a data leak.

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Cider9986 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah, phone numbers are essentially KYC. I use a phone number verification site, but I can't recommend them because they stopped accepting Monero recently.

For long term numbers I would use jmp.chat.

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pkulak 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Google knows all about virtual phone numbers and won't accept them. If you don't have a number issued by a large telco, forget about creating a Google account.

	▲	Cider9986 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		JMP is a real carrier number so it should work better for 2fa than VoIP numbers. I haven't used it yet, but I'm switching to it once my current plan runs out. There's plenty of options for data.

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_ink_ 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's super annoying, because it's normally also a path for account recovery. So if you need to change your number, good luck remembering where you have signed up with it.