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▲ arjie a day ago

I can't square this with the fact that I have a perfect storm situation that should point me there. I am a foreigner of minority ethnicity to the United States living in a high-rise building of 600 people that has no Schelling point common-space to spend time in that's located in a city that is expensive and I have all the social contact I desire: family, close friends, more distant friends, neighbours, strangers in the building, familiar strangers in the area.

I talked about how relatively easy it is to have social contact here at all levels and so I must conclude that most people simply have better uses for their time (by their own judgment) than this. https://wiki.roshangeorge.dev/w/Blog/2025-10-09/Community

▲chneu a day ago | parent | next [-]

A lot of people are convinced of things without ever trying, which they then use to justify not trying.

"I mildly attempted doing this once and it didn't work, so I won't bother trying again" describes a shocking amount of people's experiences.

I sometimes think people fail on purpose to justify apathy or giving up.

Then if anyone says anything they scream about how their experience is valid and nobody can tell them otherwise. It's wild.

There's something important about being outside our comfort zones. We need entropy in our lives and the best way to accomplish that is being in new environments with different people/creatures. What I've found is over time my comfort zone expands as I become familiar with more stuff.

▲ragequittah 16 hours ago | parent [-]

The flip side to this is thinking everyone is on equal footing and that your trying is the same as their trying. They're just doing it wrong.

Most people in this post's comments that are "not trying" seem to also be depressed in some way. If you've never experienced it, depression can make trying impossible not just a minor inconvenience. Going to therapy can help, or not. Taking anti-depressants can help, or not.

Also a "mild attempt at doing this once" that ends very poorly can cause a depressed or anxious person to spiral into a self-hatred looping hellscape. It's not a rational decision they're making it just happens. After you've experienced that you're very cautious and try to never feel it again.

And then the kicker is when you're paralyzed like this everyone just thinks you're lazy or unmotivated and pretty much tells you "don't be depressed stupid" which further sends you into having a poor outlook of yourself and it spirals from there. I've been in and out of this several times in my life, it's not pleasant. I've also tried every single remedy known to man and sometimes nothing works.

To put it simply: their experience is probably valid and nobody should tell them otherwise.

▲itake 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm a white foreigner in Asia and feel the exact same as you. But I also realize, because I'm different than everyone else, there is more interest in getting to know me.

Also, people that are different than everyone else (but same background as me) seek me out to be friends.

For example, there is a HUGE difference between a Seattle Tech event where I am literally the same as the other 60 people in the room vs Vietnamese Tech event where I am one of 3 people that speak english. Those other 2 English speakers are going to walk over and chat with me.

▲lappet 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Fellow desi here, and I am happy for you, but I haven't had the same experience at all in the Bay. Imo, there is something in American culture which makes people very incurious about other cultures...because there are so many immigrants from all over the world, Americans find it hard to relate to anyone not American. My favorite example to illustrate this is how "where are you from" is everyone's favorite question in South Asia and often asked with good intentions, but it can be considered rude in the States.

▲GrinningFool 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Asking in the US seems to risk a faux pas these days. "Why do you assume I'm 'from' somewhere else?"

▲amanaplanacanal 31 minutes ago | parent [-]

I guess some people are just looking for something to be offended about. People move around so much pretty much everybody is from somewhere else.

▲monideas 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is precisely because you are a foreigner of minority ethnicity (the minority ethnicity points towards hailing from a more traditional culture compared to if you were white and therefore you would be from Europe which does not have a traditional culture, it has a modern culture).

To clarify the idea: you have a healthy social matrix but if you marry and settle in the US, your grandchildren won't.

▲__MatrixMan__ 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

All of the foreigners I know seem so healthy about this kind of thing. I don't know what's wrong with the rest of us.

▲smcg 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

About 70-75% of Americans live in single family homes. Your experience is not universal.

▲arjie 19 hours ago | parent [-]

Right, and perhaps that indicates that the decline in social activity is a conscious trade-off made as Americans (a relatively wealthy group) prefer to live in detached land properties. That points to the social activity decline as not being something to be bemoaned but something to be celebrated because people have the opportunity to choose otherwise and they have done so in droves.