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▲ MS Paint Adds Freeform Rotation (2026)(blogs.windows.com)
35 points by telestew 2 days ago | 29 comments
▲hbn 15 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> Some Windows Insiders will see a refreshed SCOOBE screen (Second Chance Out of Box Experience)

Glad they have such a cute acronym that, when unwrapped, still doesn't reveal what it truly is (trying to trick you into enabling Microsoft services every time your PC updates)

I have already told my expensive PC 1000 times that I don't want to use Edge or OneDrive. It continues to harass me about it during general use (random pop-up to enable OneDrive have the option to remind me in a week or a month), and every update too needs to try and trick me into opting in. There's absolutely no end to which Microsoft isn't willing to tastelessly abuse their lock-in.

▲yonatan8070 2 minutes ago | parent [-]

My grandma nearly fell for one of those. Luckily her card refused it for one reason or another, but we could have easily not known about it for months of paying for Office for no reason.

▲flowerlad 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

MS Paint has broken in so many different ways since they started "improving" it. One big frustration is that the hit areas around selection handles are now oversized--probably because someone read about Fitts's Law. You can no longer move small selected regions because whenever your mouse is within a mile (seemingly) of a handle, it grabs the handle instead of the region.

▲seritools 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> probably because someone read about Fitts's Law

probably for touch screens, like all the oversized, over-padded ui everywhere

▲hliyan 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Agreed. It is impossible to make an interface that works well for smaller screens with touch input, and larger screens with pointer input. You will always end up sacrificing information density and precision on the larger screen.

▲criddell an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Sure, but Windows knows I don't have a touchscreen but I do have a mouse and keyboard so there's no point in touch accommodation.

Even if you have a touchscreen, they should know what type of pointing device is being used to select something and the targets should adapt to that.

▲jklinger410 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They should just have a manually selected touch mode. They are second class citizens and should be treated as such.

▲yonatan8070 an hour ago | parent [-]

Or just have the interface autoscale itself like context menus on W10, if you trigger one with your mouse, it has compact mouse padding, if you trigger it with touch, it has bigger touch padding.

▲kukkamario an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Well, there are separate events for touch input and mouse input on native software. You can actually handle both if you actually have time to hone that to perfection...

▲HoldOnAMinute 20 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I loved MS Paint on Windows 7. Perfect for small jobs.

▲Theodores a minute ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Interesting how they have kept MS-Paint as simple as Notepad for three decades, when they could have 'embraced, extended and extinguished' every photo editing application known to man during this time.

This could have been done like a classic OS calculator, with simple/scientific/financial UI variants, with simple/artworker/programmer modes. Programmer mode would be like the image processing toolkit VIPS (or Imagemagick), where you could batch process images without opening them, or, as per the article, rotate a 10K x 10K image by 0.02 degrees around any given x/y origin. Presumably 'artworker' mode would be somewhere between Paint Shop Pro and Photoshop, with 'simple' being the MS-Paint that grandma can use to crop undesirables out of family photos.

Admittedly, this is not what an Operating System is about, however, over the years Microsoft have acquired and relinquished many a graphics application, including Softimage 3D and the Seadragon infinite zoom image viewer. It is almost as if they don't care.

▲alxgsv 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

(2026) in the title made me giggle

▲Gravityloss 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's hard to imagine how the selection rotation demo shown could be less informative...

▲leni536 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Because it's a shape rotation, not a selection rotation. I was confused for a minute too.

▲pwdisswordfishq 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Please file feedback in Feedback Hub (WIN + F)

Wait, WIN + F is no longer for finding files?

▲alterom an hour ago | parent [-]

I think they just want you to search with WIN.

Anyway I just use Everything by Voidtools[1] for file search because it works instantly and, well, actually works.

[1] https://www.voidtools.com/

▲neoden 23 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Show some mercy. The team that supports the poor thing has their OKRs too.

▲algoth1 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Paint.net has done Paint right for many years now...

▲sans_souse 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

TiL MS-Paint.exe has a canary version.

▲kijin 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Somebody in the Windows team must have realized that they can now vibecode all the missing features into MS Paint without having to dig into the legacy codebase themselves. New brushes, layers, and now rotation.

We all know where this is headed. Sooner or later, they're going to drag copilot into it.

▲Kwpolska an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I'm pretty sure Paint has been rewritten at least once, if not twice, since Windows 95. Windows 7's Paint was much more advanced, with far more options. The current one in Windows 11 definitely has a new UI, although the underlying code might be the same.

▲molybd3num 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They already did, there's a copilot button on the ribbon now

▲BorisMelnik 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I swear to god and I don't know why, but if they do that, that will be my final straw with Windows

▲hbn 12 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Apparently it's not your final straw because they did it almost 2 years ago

https://www.business-standard.com/technology/tech-news/micro...

▲alterom an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I just use the local install of https://jspaint.app instead.

11/10, does exactly what I need it to do.

▲blululu 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It sure why the downvotes. Given the number of photopea clones getting vibe coded there really is no excuse for paint to lack functionality found in ImageMagik 30 years ago

▲olyjohn an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Or maybe they could leave it alone, and take the developers working on this and have them fix all the glaring issues in the OS and all of their shit online services. With all the vibe coded apps coming out, I think we can find alternatives to MS Paint easily enough.

▲alterom an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

>Given the number of photopea clones getting vibe coded there really is no excuse for paint to lack functionality found in ImageMagick 30 years ago

Oh, and hear me out: we have now enough bytes to allow unlimited number of syllables in haiku poems!

Isn't it neat? Now this comment can also be a haiku, and MS Paint can be Photoshop.

Yay progress!

▲cyphar 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Funnily enough, it was because of this missing feature that primary-school-me figured out that you can emulate rotation using the (somewhat inexplicably present) skew feature. Matt Parker did a video about it a few years ago too[1].

So am I saying this is needless bloat and Micro$oft have lost their ways? Yes! Back in my day we had to do it by hand -- the sheer entitlement (pun intended) to expect a computer to do computations for you. The children yearn for practical uses of trigonometry!

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LCEiVDHJmc