I had been holding off on buying an Apple TV in anticipation of this launch, and am a bit underwhelmed. $300 just seems crazy for what is, or I guess, what it's coming from.

Does anyone know why having 128GB of storage is useful? Just for installing more apps? I've had Google TV devices in the past, and don't think I ever came close to the 32GB storage limit. Maybe there's a gap I'm missing...

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huseyinkeles 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I’ve been using an Apple TV since ~2014 I think. Upgraded to the 4K version on release (2022 version).

Really nothing beats it, especially if you are in Apple ecosystem but even if you are not, it’s a million times better than the messy android tv with full of ads and bloat.

That being said, I don’t see a reason for us to upgrade to this version.

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hellcow 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

My Android TV has a non-default launcher with no ads, and I can sideload apps to get things like Youtube with sponsorblock baked in. Going to Apple's locked down system seems like a huge downgrade to me.

	▲	huseyinkeles 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I have isponsorblocktv running on my home server that skips YouTube segments automatically. Also running side-loaded Stremio with torrenting enabled so I can stream Big Buck Bunny.

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jm4 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The reason will be that the older, less expensive Apple TV 4k will no longer be available. There's really no other reason. This is a price hike, plain and simple.

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scrumper 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I need a new ATV to replace the ancient HD one that's dying in our living room. I've been putting it off because of laziness and now I can't get one directly from Apple if I don't want this too expensive, Siri-infested thing with all its microphones that I'll never use. Dammit!

	▲	microtonal 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I think you could still get the previous model from third-party stores the next few days.

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bastardoperator 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

But more conversational AI, that doesn't inspire you?

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Toslink 29 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

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shepherdjerred 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

128GB is strange. Apple nickel-and-dimes you for storage most of the time, but on this random TV box they give you 128GB.

The only thing I could think of using this for is syncthing, but I'm not sure if there's an Apple TV app

	▲	ragazzina 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> 128GB is strange. It's really not. It's so reviewers will be able to say "it costs more than the last version, but you also get much more storage" and the average consumer is happy. If there were a practical reason for it Apple would put it front and center.

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antonyt 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Most likely the storage is for game installations. Apple has been somewhat pushing it as a gaming platform.

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jamie_ca 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They support it for games, I wouldn't really say they've been pushing it though.

That said, I'd love it if Plex or Jellyfin were able to use that storage to cache files locally (eg. stream the data as fast as possible and play from the local copy) to smooth out some flakiness with the wifi between the tv and my home server.

	▲	steve_adams_86 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		They did push it for gaming at one time, but it fizzled out since then. At one point Arcade was pushed pretty hard, and they presented Apple TV as the premier place to play it. I've used it for a total of a few hours in many years, almost exclusively for mini motorways. It never made sense to play over the Switch or PS5. I'm not sure who's using it.

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hbn 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Eh Apple halfheartedly pretends like they're a gaming platform every couple years for a WWDC and then never gives any indication they're actually trying the other 364 days of the year. I'd be shocked if gaming was an influence in the storage at all.

I'd guess it's room for the AI model and future versions of it that could grow.

	▲	6SixTy 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Hey now, they care about the MTX gravy train that is mobile gaming.

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6SixTy 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Having 128GB of storage really does shape what kind of games are going to be played though. For a modern PS5/XSX/PC AAA game you can expect ~100 GB per install, and indie games really run the gamut depending on genre and scope.

I would expect only mobile developers to actually bother porting games natively to Apple TV, with larger titles opting for game streaming.