I’d argue Apple TVs were one of the few cost subsidized items they sell, as when people could get 15$ Fire TV sticks anywhere they had to at least look competitive. Now that costs have gone up significantly and it’s basically an iPhone 17 without a screen it’s tough to keep the costs down.

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nnx 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

an iPhone 17 without a screen, with half the storage, without a battery, without FaceID, without cameras, without cellular modem, without Taptic Engine, without…

The only part that “deserves” a price increase is the storage starting at 128GB now instead of 32GB, but it’s completely out of touch to get rid of the base model when nobody has any use for all that storage (even the 32GB) for what is basically a streaming box.

Hell, even their new HomeView device, which does have a screen and FaceID, starts at same price.

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thewonderfulmrp 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What do you even use the storage for?

	▲	piskov 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		App store has games — that would take most if some people are into casual stuff Obviously some cache for local playback, photos, screensavers, etc.
	▲	phoghed 7 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		I believe you can download movies you buy, it's not all purely streaming.
	▲	artisinal 8 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Local AI model.

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steinvakt2 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The base model was 64gb for years, not 32

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cromka 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And only a gigabit Ethernet port...

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penagwin 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Would there be any point in 2.5gbps beyond installing system updates a few seconds faster?

AFAIK you’d be hard pressed to hit 150mbps with your own local media.

And any streaming services will use way less - Netflix and Hulu recommend a mere 16Mbps at 4k for example.

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cromka 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Apple TV can double as Home Hub device in which it records/routes to/ cloud from your cameras. Combined with high-res content, e.g. when streaming games, it can saturate the 1GbE.

Also, just learned it's still 4k 60Hz. So forget 120Hz gaming. Game streaming is likely to become a default in near future at the hardware proces we see, so limiting to 60Hz is really cheap of them at this point.

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imoverclocked an hour ago | parent [-]

I’m not a gamer so I had to look this up. The Google AI answer for cloud gaming stated a stable 15-20Mbps connection as a requirement. Obviously latency matters in many scenarios but raw bandwidth might be overstated?

	▲	cromka 39 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Geforce Now requires up to 1gbit for the 5k 120Hz. Geforce Now is not yet available on Apple TV, but it's probably a matter of time and/or other similar services will also impose requirements like this sooner or later.

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imoverclocked 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Any use for a faster port in this device? I use gig-e on my current 4K and it’s really nice to reduce latency (compared to WiFi) but I doubt 2.5G or 10G would be that useful… unless there were an SFP+ port where I could run fiber instead.

	▲	cromka 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yes, responded to similar question adjacent to yours

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XajniN 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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