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▲ jdw64 4 hours ago

The reason America is great is that even after electing such a corrupt president twice, the country still keeps running. I feel the greatness of the American political system.

▲usui 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The counterfactual doesn't make sense. Which country would stop or grind to a halt after electing a corrupt president? I think almost all countries would keep running at a basically normal capacity until failure, yet that doesn't prove those countries have great systems.

This will need a lot more time and hindsight to make general statements in terms of the wider picture.

▲diydsp 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It'a not abt whether it keeps running. It's whether its citizens are able to maintain their rights.

▲estearum 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Many citizens are not able to maintain their rights. Citizens are getting shot and killed by masked federal agents marauding through their neighborhoods. Americans who speak with particular accents or have specific skintones or frequent certain restaurants are getting harassed by police non-stop.

▲cowlevel 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

the comment specifically said whether it keeps running

▲mxkopy 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I think it’s sarcasm. In other counties such corruption would trigger revolution, and the political system would grind to a halt

▲mlfreeman an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We're still running in the same sense that Wile E. Coyote is still running when he goes off the cliff. Eventually we'll collectively look down.

▲LeBit 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The billions diverted from the government (tariffs, Venezuelian oil, etc) to enrich his own family and friends probably won’t make a dent in the American economy.

America is so great , it can sustain the appetite of corrupt presidencies.

▲boesboes 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Just don't look at how the bottom half is doing!

▲cowlevel 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I heard there's now an epidemic of people dumping their spare change jars on the gas station counter to get the last drops of gas they can. This is what a collapsed country is like. This is what the USSR was like just before it officially disintegrated. The relatively wealthy tech bubble this website inhabits is shielded from it to a large extent.

▲loudmax an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A (fairly obvious) historical analogy is how the Roman Empire survived the reigns of maniacs like Caligula and Commodus. It's hard to ascertain how reliable historical sources are, but as presented, both of these emperors were at the least pathological narcissists, and at worst completely out of their minds. They each squandered an enormous amount of the Roman treasury on vanity projects and undermined Roman institutions and the rule of law. And yet, the Roman Empire survived both of them for centuries.

Like you, I'm impressed with how resilient the American economy has been over the past few years. The tariffs, the war, the incompetence and open corruption seem like they should have done a lot more immediate damage. What's disconcerting is that much of the damage is to America's long term interests. So much of America's greatness has come from attracting talent from all around the world into a stable lawful society. That's what we're losing.

▲Steve16384 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What would be your definition of not running? It's like when someone says "We survived Covid!". Yes, you might have but thousands of others died.

▲serf 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>What would be your definition of not running?

inflation combined with little to no wage increase leading to total economic stall outside of the scope of any safety mechanisms, which precipitates an extreme cliff-face degradation of everyday life and commerce for citizens at every level.

or, another way : conditions that would lead to public rebellion en masse, which further stalls things past the economic strife.

the type of thing 1780s France saw.

▲dgellow 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s way worse, the accumulated covid deaths in the US was above 1.1M in 2023

▲mschuster91 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Eventually though, the built in resiliency will be destroyed. Public services got gutted by DOGE and a bunch more called it quits.

And in the end, that is the game they are playing. Starve the beast (aka, the US government) until not much more than the military remains.

▲actionfromafar 2 hours ago | parent [-]

And weaken the brass, Russia style, until the military is just the personal Army of the King.

▲phs318u 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Please tell me there's an implied /s there somewhere.

▲alienbaby 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

have you looked closely at the state of your institutions lately. 'The country keeps running' .. a large thing has quite a lot of momentum, it will travel quite far from that alone even if you do remove it's kneecaps.

unless you dropped the '/s' ?

▲actionfromafar 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Russia also "keeps running". The floor is a long way down, doesn't mean it's a good idea to go in that direction.

▲timnetworks 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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