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▲ throwawayffffas 5 hours ago

Nah, Apple is going to provide attestation, and since you can't or won't be able to share keys between accounts, no harm no foul.

▲EA-3167 4 hours ago | parent [-]

For a lot of people Apple is the ecosystem they access everything through, including payment processing. That cuts both ways, but Apple has shown a clear preference for protecting user privacy when they could have chosen to do otherwise, presumably because it makes them more money in the long run.

Why would that suddenly change in Netflix or some other company's favor at Apple's direct expense?

▲throwawayffffas 4 hours ago | parent [-]

It's not in Apples expense, it's actually in it's benefit, your keys would be in their system, and impossible for anyone (including you) to get them out of it.

So you are now locked in to the apple ecosystem forever. You now need Apple to watch Netflix from your Samsung TV.

▲WorldMaker 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Apple has very good support for Passkey storage in third party password managers/wallets. They don't seem to want Passkeys to be a lock in. They've also made it clear that they see attestation as a consumer privacy violation and won't support it.

▲makeitdouble 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

> They've also made it clear that they see attestation as a consumer privacy violation and won't support it.

I'm trying to get a source on this but failing, do you have a link or some wwwdc sessions where Apple detail their stance ?

▲EA-3167 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You make it sound like Apple needs to lock the door instead of just opening it while everyone else shoots themselves in the foot. For people who want "it just works" as the highest function of their device, nothing comes close to Apple. It's only people with a technical inclination or specific needs who chaff at that, or people like me who are just cranky old bastards who don't want their own media collection apart from i/Apple/Everything.

But man... I cannot tell you how many people don't even notice the walls of the garden. Besides Apple is in competition with some huge players, more than capable of offering "Done with Apple literally trapping you? Follow this link and we'll transfer your passkeys."

▲throwawayffffas 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Done with Apple literally trapping you? Follow this link and we'll transfer your passkeys.

That's the whole point of the FIDO specs. This is now literally impossible to do. All the vendors are weirdly okay with this I believe it's because it cuts both ways.

▲makeitdouble an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> "it just works"

That ship has sailed a long time ago.

Most people still hanging to that part have already built a whole way of life around the Apple ecosystem and the boundaries and how to work around them have become second nature to them.

The iPhone is now near 20y old, the world also changed, most got enshitificated, and looking at kids and elderlies dealing with their iPhones and macs none of it "just works".

Looking at Japan, it was the bastion of iPhone predominance, but I'm the latest numbers 30+ yo gradually got off the train to move to android as their phone is just becoming another tool to them.