That is an insanely bad look for that employer. This kind of invasive employee monitoring is treating people like property rather than as human beings. The problem is that the power dynamic between employers and employees in many countries is such that they can make the most outrageous demands and people will have to comply because there is always another person ready to step into their shoes.

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laughing_man 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The only real power you will ever have as an employee is your willingness to walk away from a job. What necessarily follows is that ideally you would develop a set of marketable skills which are in high enough demand that employers will be wiling to accommodate your wishes because replacing you would be a big hassle.

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giantg2 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"This kind of invasive employee monitoring is treating people like property rather than as human beings."

Exposing employment for what it is.

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quantified 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

For that employer, it's going to be normal, and employees won't be looking. In the USA, managment dictates all terms of employment, take it or leave it.

	▲	iugtmkbdfil834 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Omg, covid years brought such unimaginable seethe from management class that as a result I never bought into the conspiracy theories on it. The weird amount of anger on not being able to among other bright ideas 'manage by walking' drove some to the edge of madness. They are still angry and were all too happy when Musk declared that the wfh vacation is over.

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pvaldes 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And from that point, many companies sink like a rock as they can not retain the people able to work unsupervised and only keep the meek that need instructions for even going to the bathroom.

If the people fired had years of experience in the job and the new people hired don't, the company lose talent. Is bleeding money in an endless loop of training people just to let them go soon after that, has trained somebody to nurture their competitors, and some of this people could even make new companies out of spite and compete with their former boss.

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jacquesm 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I've haven't been properly employed for decades but if an employer tried a move like this I would be laughing at them. Not a chance, such idiocy.

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ChrisMarshallNY 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I think times have changed. I spent almost 27 years in a sort of "silo," and, when I came out into the modern tech world, I realized that the world had changed, very much, for the worse.

I guess the saddest thing, is that everyone just accepts this.

Fortunately, I had the means to retire, and I did.

I think it's about to happen again, but a lot faster, this time.

	▲	jacquesm 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It's the normalization of deviance thing all over again. The only reason I notice the deviation is extreme is because I haven't seen all the little steps in between.

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vkou 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> This kind of invasive employee monitoring is treating people like property rather than as human beings.

The whole point of corporate capitalism is to do exactly that. The corporation is a machine whose most-optimized purpose is to turn people into money.

Human dignity is not a concern for it.