| ▲ | andsoitis 3 hours ago |
| > seeking funding What’s the purpose of Nitter? Elevator pitch if you will? And where can one read a bio of the creator(s)? |
|
| ▲ | Avicebron 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > Elevator pitch if you will? For the decade+ there has been an unofficial town square known as twitter. As the town square has slowly become more gated and overgrown with weeds some people thought giving people a way to access the town square without paying the entrance fee would be helpful. Many found this useful. Now I think the whole thing is trash, and agree, why use Twitter? But people like journalists and AI executives are still announcing things on Twitter because having a large following seems like a dopamine booster. In this world where people see the following as a source of legitimacy, having a single company own that town square seems...problematic., |
| |
| ▲ | andsoitis 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Let’s assume the analogy to town square holds, who do you think should control it? The UN? | | |
| ▲ | Avicebron 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I'm reminded of the phrase 天下为公, which is hard to translate exactly because 公 is doing some linguistical juggling that English has a hard time matching. I don't think twitter in its current capacity should exist, the storage should be decoupled from the filters and the filters that everyone uses should be a free market with traditional competition dynamics. It may end up looking something like twitter, but without editorializing algorithms and a single walled entry. We can quibble who owns the database I suppose. | | | |
| ▲ | righthand an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It was only a “town square” in the minds of Twitter users, no one else thinks that about a news media propped-up social network. If anything it was a comment section attached to nothing. And comment sections all get bad after a while. | |
| ▲ | Muromec 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | the EU of course, the actually functioning UN |
|
|
|
| ▲ | stratos123 29 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > And where can one read a bio of the creator(s)? This comes across to me as a surprising question - why do you assume there's such a bio at all, rather than it being developed by someone anonymous, as is the case for many questionably legal privacy tools? |
|
| ▲ | Levitz 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| >What’s the purpose of Nitter? To allow people to check X without feeling they are contributing to the success of the platform, by bypassing the account requirement. |
| |
| ▲ | small_model 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Jut dont use it, either it's useful or not. X needs revenue to continue to bypassing it illegal and should not be done. Either use X or don't. | | |
| ▲ | isatty an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I don’t use it, but some government organizations keep doing it. Why on earth they do that, I will never know, but I’m not making an account to read a tweet. | | |
| ▲ | Levitz 34 minutes ago | parent [-] | | >Why on earth they do that, I will never know Because some people in positions of power ignore the consequences of using external services. There has been a bit of a wake up call in this regard in Europe, with many governments making efforts to detach themselves from US corporations, but it's a much larger problem. When a government entity chooses to rely on Whatsapp, or Android, or some other piece of technology bound to a corporation, they are creating a bond between the rights and services they enable and interaction with that corporation. This nuance is often ignored because "Well everybody uses (thing) anyway" and other shortsighted trains of thought. I'm by no means against opposing X in principle, but the issue at hand is not itself about X, and I suspect a lot of people wouldn't care if it was still Twitter. |
| |
| ▲ | cowlevel 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > X needs revenue to continue I think that's the point | | |
| ▲ | andsoitis 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | All services need money to function. | |
| ▲ | small_model an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | cowlevel 42 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | If it's dead the people posting there that we're trying to get access to will post somewhere else, probably somewhere easier to access. | |
| ▲ | nixosbestos an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > me hate him coz media told me so What an amazingly dumbass thing to say. Yes, there's no reasons why a person would rationally dislike Elon, sure. I hope you realize how people perceive you when you utter such inanity. |
|
| |
| ▲ | Tostino 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You don't have a choice when cities, counties, or other government officials decide to make announcements on there. | |
| ▲ | Muromec 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | what else is illegal? adblock? |
| |
| ▲ | andsoitis 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
|
|
| ▲ | layer8 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The purpose is being able to read X in the browser without an account. |
|
| ▲ | flawn 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Freeing the bird from the shackles of X. |
| |
| ▲ | andsoitis 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Would you contribute funds? | | |
| ▲ | stymaar 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I just did. | | | |
| ▲ | rvz 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Let’s be honest, They won’t. The users won’t fund it, as they want to use it for free. This is what happens when people say they will “donate” but will actually wait for others to do it and little to no one donates. What you are seeing is the bystander effect. It is why projects like Nitter will end up raising capital from VCs as they actually have money. | | |
| ▲ | rwmj 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Seems an unlikely investment for a VC. Xitter can shut down Nitter any time they want, and the end users don't want to pay for it. | | |
| ▲ | cowlevel 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | That's exactly what VCs are good for. Cities could've shut down Uber any time they wanted, but they didn't, so it grew big. There has to be a plausible path to making money though. If the purpose of nitter is to not make money, VCs won't fund it. If it substituted X's ads for Nitter's own ads, that could work, but the online ad market isn't as lucrative as it once was so it wouldn't be enough money. You could find a VC whose other project has similar legal concerns and get them to fund your legal case to set precedent, but I don't know what that project would be. |
| |
| ▲ | 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [deleted] |
|
|
|
|
| ▲ | searealist 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Can we skip to the moat? |