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▲ marshymarsh 4 hours ago

the only thing keeping me from jumping from GrapheneOS is contact and storage scopes. :(

▲user2722 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Don't forget proprietary security patches are only open sourced 3 months after -- GOS has them due to their partnership with Motorola.

A sufficiently motivated threat actor will have them (the exploits) too.

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▲realusername 22 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Unless you are using the most expensive flagship of a few Android brands, you are also vulnerable anyways

▲imkac 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's optional.

▲jurf 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

While not great, a private space or work profile with Shelter can work in a a pinch. I use it e.g. WhatsApp, where I just need three people, but which is almost unusable if you don’t give it the permission.

It’s a bit more annoying but also isolates stuff like photos etc. by default, so you don’t have to think about it.

▲imkac 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

GrapheneOS actually feels just like LineageOS, except that it has faster upstream updates, better security, and greater usability...

I don't understand why it took LineageOS so long to update to AOSP 17, while GrapheneOS managed to update to 17 in just 3 days. LineageOS really should be based directly on GrapheneOS.

▲deng an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> I don't understand why it took LineageOS so long to update to AOSP 17, while GrapheneOS managed to update to 17 in just 3 days.

Here's a hint: GrapheneOS has paid developers working on it full-time, while LineageOS is done by people in their spare time. Also, GrapheneOS has a collaboration with Motorola and through that gets for instance early access to security patches, and probably other things as well. And lastly, LineageOS supports roughly 10x the number of devices. It's significantly easier if you restrict yourself to Pixels.

▲timschumi 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> I don't understand why it took LineageOS so long to update to AOSP 17, while GrapheneOS managed to update to 17 in just 3 days.

GrapheneOS does not have circle battery.

> LineageOS really should be based directly on GrapheneOS.

What would that achieve?

▲user2722 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

GOS => security, usability

LOS => most security, most usability, breadth of support

▲imkac 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Actually LineageOS has less usability due to AOSP bugs, no GMS, unlocked boot loader, etc. The weak security is cost of wide support.

▲Borealid 22 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Could you explain how the ability to unlock a bootloader makes a device less usable?

▲spaqin an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

i'm fine with that "less security" as my threat model does not include crossing the US border.

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