| ▲ | ErroneousBosh 3 hours ago |
| > it’s ultimately superior technology that’s ripened to displace gas peaker plants What's the ecological impact of constructing all these batteries? |
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| ▲ | avianlyric 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Substantially smaller than building and running gas peaker plants |
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| ▲ | triceratops 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The same as the ecological impact of constructing gas tanks and pipelines. Only using electricity from batteries doesn't have ecological harms, whereas burning gas does. |
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| ▲ | ErroneousBosh an hour ago | parent [-] | | Gas tanks are made from steel, which last time I looked was a lot cleaner to refine than lithium, and with a lot less energy input. | | |
| ▲ | triceratops 39 minutes ago | parent [-] | | How so? Both require mining, separating metal from ore and so on. Steelmaking is done in blast furnaces that burn coal. Lithium can be refined by evaporating brine in large open ponds under sunlight. Let's see some actual numbers. |
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| ▲ | theshrike79 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Batteries are 90-95% recyclable. Gas is 0% recyclable. |
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| ▲ | ErroneousBosh an hour ago | parent [-] | | That's nice that they're recyclable. What's the runoff from the chemical processing to make the batteries like? Or does it not matter if you poison great swathes of China? | | |
| ▲ | nicoburns 35 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | You think the Oil and Gas industry is cleaner? Recylable is important because it means we don't have to mine as much. | |
| ▲ | gcanyon 35 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Oh good lord -- cite something real, or stop fear-mongering. |
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