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▲ gonzalohm 4 hours ago

This may be seen as radical. But I think AI tools should be paid by the employee. After all, you should know how to do your work without AI.

▲kittomic 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Should they pay for their pipelines too?

After all, they should know how to compile their software. Any automation of that process is cheating their employer.

▲wrxd 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sure. Should I also pay rent for my desk at the office?

▲platevoltage 2 hours ago | parent [-]

They're welcome to let you use the desk at your house that you own.

▲ungovernableCat 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You're opening yourself up to data right and privacy risks with that. My company demands that I use their enterprise account because they can claim full ownership of all produced output and have full logs of every interaction.

I think that gets legally murky, if the employee is the one who pays for the tool.

▲robotburrito 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The forklift should just be paid for by the employee. After all they should be strong enough to do work without one.

▲platevoltage 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The better analogy would be "Tools should be paid for by the mechanic". Experienced ones tend to have $10K+ worth of tools that they paid for.

▲Avicebron 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't understand your logic, why would an employee pay for a tool their employer wants them to use?

▲NewJazz 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah that only makes sense if they are a freelancer/contractor.

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▲bayindirh 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If my employer is not forcing me to use a tool and gives me freedom, I'll be perfectly OK to use my own tools which I bought with my own money.

If my employer is putting scoreboards to see and champion who uses a tool which costs money to use, they shall pay for the tool.

Sorry, I'm not a ladder climber, yet I'm not mindless enough to bankrupt myself.

▲Jagerbizzle 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I could still do my job by typing all code into notepad, but companies don't charge employees for their IDE usage for a reason.

▲gonzalohm 2 hours ago | parent [-]

And I could do my job by paying someone overseas to do it for me. Why is that not paid by the employer then?

▲hypfer 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nah. Work provides the tools.

An LLM is not too dissimilar to a Work Laptop or an IDE license.

▲basiliobeltran 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I am fine with that if I can keep the time saved for my personal use.

▲iAMkenough 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’d love it if I could bring my own computer to do my work, rather than be stuck with garbage hardware because of an enterprise agreement.

▲cyberpunk an hour ago | parent [-]

Wait, okay maybe I'm in a bubble, but every org I've worked at understood that giving us whatever hardware we want more than pays for itself, and very quickly.

I can't fathom the logic of paying 10k a month for a developer and giving them an 800 device.

Insane. Your leadership is severely broken. If you can, work somewhere that values you.

▲watwut 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Employer pays tools used for work. Whether they are used to speed up work or to make it possible.

▲platevoltage 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As someone who does have to pay for my own AI tools (if I didn't use OpenCode's free models), I agree.

▲frisbm 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"employees should foot the bill for tools that directly benefit their billion dollar employers"

▲outside1234 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In California this would mean the employee would own the IP -- or at least it would be murky -- and companies and lawyers don't like murky.